shh wrote:To some degree it is, but the legibility thing is a fact.
Alright, point taken. If we go by legibility "ratskep" is surely more legible then?
shh wrote:To some degree it is, but the legibility thing is a fact.
shh wrote:LIFE wrote:Ain't that just personal preference
Famous logos like Wikipedia, Wal Mart, AOL, Sony are all caps and I'm sure at least the last 3 must have had the budget to pitch some decent logos, no?
To some degree it is, but the legibility thing is a fact. Also, AOL is different because it's initials, IBM is similar, and the others are famous brands, not famous logos. Other than Nike I can't think of a classic logo that's all caps, and with Nike it's actually the swoosh that's classic, not the logotype.
LIFE wrote:Alright, point taken. If we go by legibility "ratskep" is surely more legible then?
Sure, there is definitely an element of preference here, but if you look at logo's that are considered classic you'll generally find the best tend to stick to the rules, and last far longer than those that don't, Coke, Apple, Adobe, ABC, all stick to proper (for writing) capitalization).I'm With Stupid wrote:
The legibility thing is true, but it's the sort of thing that's more important in road signs than company logos. There are as many all caps as regular logos. Pepsi have just changed to all lower case, but they've been all caps for years. I've got a bar of Dairy Milk chocolate next to me, and that's all caps too, even if the Cadbury bit isn't. I've also got my Barclays bank card reader, which has an all-caps logo, and I'm typing this on my Dell laptop, which is all caps. I can see electrical products by Bush, Humax, Toshiba, Philips and Pure, all in all-caps. And just for balance, I've got a letter from Specsavers, which is written normally. And they should know about reading.![]()
True, but they're not relying on the logo in the same way, nor for the same amount of time. Also they have to a large degree a captive audience, movie goers are going to seek out movies, and who's gonna forget the opening scene of star wars?
Perhaps most interesting, since you said this, I thought I'd check out some movie posters, because they have that thing of never usually being an automatically recognisable logo, and having to catch people's attention in public and presumably be fairly legible, as well as being longer than your usual logo. And they're practically all all-caps. Look at all of the most successful films in history. All of the Star Wars, Avatar, Titanic, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight, Pirates of the Caribbean, Jurassic Park, Spiderman, Shrek, hell, even Gone with the Wind. Harry Potter is the only one I can find that isn't. I dunno if that's just a movie thing, but it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.
Yeah, the stuff I'm saying is no more than pointers. You should definitely knock something together with a biro if you've got an idea, if the idea is good, we'll sort out polishing it up, that won't be a problem. Don't use photoshop though, it's bitmaps, so it's not capable of producing the kind of crispness you want in a logo, at least not without putting in extra effort that using vector does automatically. Inkscape is free, not sure if I mentioned that or not.
Tbh, I think people should just do what they think looks best for their particular design. Anyway, I've officially given up after realising I lack both the drawing ability and the photoshop skills to do it.
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
j.mills wrote:This competition is discriminatory against people who are artistically useless.![]()
But my idea is a rat (with a hat?) looking through a magnifying glass. If anyone with the Drawing superpower wants to run with that, be my guest.
shh wrote:Couple of pointers: firstly,any logo should initially be done entirely in black and white, good logo's are capable of being rendered in a variety of ways, to ensure that they don't become boring, this means they need to be reproducible in a variety of colours, and sizes, and on different backgrounds, so colour shouldn't be a part of the primary design. For example, each sub-forum could have it's own variation of the logo, specific colours have specific associations, so an easy way to achieve a suitable variation for each forum would be to alter the colour. This is not possible if the logo has to be a specific colour.
shh wrote:Finally, as LIFE mentioned logos need to be reproducible at a range of sizes, so for the final version they should be produced as vector graphics. I'd be happy to finalize the logo for anyone that needs it, but if you want to do your own (and it's better if you do, you're guaranteed to get it the way you want then) you can download inkscape from http://www.inkscape.org/ vectors are small files which can be reproduced at any size with no loss of quality.
lordpasternack wrote:If the site's "nickname" is going to be in the logo, then it might be wise to consider setting up a redirect for anyone who doesn't know of this site and taps that in as a domain name. I also feel that, though it may be more "catchy" - it doesn't actually say much intelligible to prospective newbies… Just a few thoughts…
LIFE wrote:Too geeky?
lordpasternack wrote:If the site's "nickname" is going to be in the logo, then it might be wise to consider setting up a redirect for anyone who doesn't know of this site and taps that in as a domain name. I also feel that, though it may be more "catchy" - it doesn't actually say much intelligible to prospective newbies… Just a few thoughts…
Oliver wrote:
Anyone who has Photoshop already can create vectors straight in the program, such as the feathers above, which were drawn in Photoshop and - as such - can be scaled indefinitely, though you have to re-apply the gradient each time, but that's easy because it's a bleedin' gradient. If it's not a vector image, but it's a simple 2 tone (or even 3 tone) image, it can be loaded in Illustrator (which usually comes with Photoshop) and automatically turned into a vector graphic on there.
Fucking don't do that to me.
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
shh wrote:well, here's my first attempt:
Luis Dias wrote:I didn't know this site was going to turn itself into a goth vampire house.
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