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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#101  Postby tuco » May 15, 2019 7:22 pm

Just found this: Humans to Mars 2019 - https://livestream.com/viewnow/HumanstoMars2019

they have others stuff too: 50th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference - https://livestream.com/viewnow/lpsc2019
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#102  Postby tuco » Mar 07, 2022 8:37 pm

Send Your Name Around the Moon with NASA! - https://www.nasa.gov/send-your-name-with-artemis/
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#103  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 07, 2022 8:49 pm

tuco wrote:Send Your Name Around the Moon with NASA! - https://www.nasa.gov/send-your-name-with-artemis/



Such an odd idea - I'm puzzled about what would motivate people to perceive such a service as desirable.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#104  Postby Matt_B » Mar 07, 2022 9:41 pm

It's just a bit of public outreach, that's all.

Relatively few people are interested in space missions for the actual science, but give people a chance to put their name on board and you can reach a whole new audience. This has been going on since, I think, New Horizons.

It comes pretty much for free too. Space probes always have a significant margin just in case something vital dramatically increases in mass between the engineering mock up and the real thing. This is typically going to be filled out with lead weights as ballast, but you can easily stick something like a flash drive in there. That's also how things like the Pioneer Plaque and the Voyager Golden Records were able to be worked in during previous eras.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#105  Postby tuco » Mar 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Matt_B wrote:It's just a bit of public outreach, that's all.

Relatively few people are interested in space missions for the actual science, but give people a chance to put their name on board and you can reach a whole new audience. This has been going on since, I think, New Horizons.

It comes pretty much for free too. Space probes always have a significant margin just in case something vital dramatically increases in mass between the engineering mock up and the real thing. This is typically going to be filled out with lead weights as ballast, but you can easily stick something like a flash drive in there. That's also how things like the Pioneer Plaque and the Voyager Golden Records were able to be worked in during previous eras.


It also comes with an option to sign up for a NASA newsletter and updates on the Artemis mission. So in my mind, it's a small step to popularize NASA and science. Same thing with NASA broadcasting on Twitch for example. It does not matter why people come to the channel, and it's usually over 10k when it goes live, what matters is that it gets more people involved. And since it's for free, it's a non-zerosum game where everyone wins.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#106  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 07, 2022 10:30 pm

Matt_B wrote:It's just a bit of public outreach, that's all.


Sorry, not for NASA - I meant for the potential customer.

I understand that there are plenty of people with vast sums of disposable wealth, but even as bragging rights, isn't it a bit lame?
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#107  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 08, 2022 9:21 am

Matt_B wrote:It's just a bit of public outreach, that's all.

Relatively few people are interested in space missions for the actual science, but give people a chance to put their name on board and you can reach a whole new audience. This has been going on since, I think, New Horizons.

It comes pretty much for free too. Space probes always have a significant margin just in case something vital dramatically increases in mass between the engineering mock up and the real thing. This is typically going to be filled out with lead weights as ballast, but you can easily stick something like a flash drive in there. That's also how things like the Pioneer Plaque and the Voyager Golden Records were able to be worked in during previous eras.


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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#108  Postby Fenrir » Mar 08, 2022 9:48 am

Good luck with the go it alone spacing Vlad.

Remember it was you that left the effort.

I'd like to see some pre-emptive excluding where ITER is concerned. Results are still a very long way off but I suspect that your involvement would be an unnecessary distraction.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#109  Postby tuco » Mar 08, 2022 7:55 pm

Fenrir wrote:Good luck with the go it alone spacing Vlad.

Remember it was you that left the effort.

I'd like to see some pre-emptive excluding where ITER is concerned. Results are still a very long way off but I suspect that your involvement would be an unnecessary distraction.


I put the first sentence to Google because I do not understand it and first thing that came up was Waiting for Godot lol

Anyway, you've been drinking again? This thread is about Moon.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#110  Postby The_Piper » Mar 09, 2022 12:42 am

Your name on a flash drive that goes around the moon, what the hell for? :lol: At least it's free. The newsletter is a much better deal.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#111  Postby tuco » Mar 09, 2022 7:41 am

I mean, why not?

Maybe the spacecraft will get lost, drift into a wormhole and appear in the Delta quadrant (Star Trek: Voyager reference) or another galaxy where it will be found by some species who will wonder: Who the fuck are the guys on the flash drive? :)

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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#112  Postby The_Piper » Mar 09, 2022 1:38 pm

I assume there's a device on board for aliens to read the flash drive then. Assuming they have eyes and hands. :mrgreen:
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#113  Postby Matt_B » Mar 09, 2022 9:56 pm

The_Piper wrote:I assume there's a device on board for aliens to read the flash drive then. Assuming they have eyes and hands. :mrgreen:


There were pictorial instructions on the back of the Voyager Golden Records on how to play back the contents. I suspect that constructing something that'll read a flash drive might be beyond that level though.

That said, there are computers on board that'll probably be using off-the-shelf SoCs these days with USB support built in. I'm sure that any advanced alien life forms out there could figure out how to put the two together.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#114  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2022 9:57 pm

Imagine how disappointed they'll be when it's just a bunch of names of dead humans.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#115  Postby The_Piper » Mar 09, 2022 10:32 pm

:lol: :lol:

The Voyager has actual useful content. Not likely that it will ever be found, of course, but still cool.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#116  Postby tuco » Mar 09, 2022 10:58 pm

In Star Trek: Voyager there are several instances where Voyager finds, in the Delta quadrant 70 000 light-years from Earth, something. A truck from the 1950s, Amelia Earhart who was abducted by aliens, Klingon artifact, 21st century Mars spacecraft. Indeed, makes one wonder what the odds were :)

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#117  Postby The_Piper » Mar 10, 2022 3:32 am

tuco wrote:In Star Trek: Voyager there are several instances where Voyager finds, in the Delta quadrant 70 000 light-years from Earth, something. A truck from the 1950s, Amelia Earhart who was abducted by aliens, Klingon artifact, 21st century Mars spacecraft. Indeed, makes one wonder what the odds were :)

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That sounds pretty cool. I've hardly watched much Star Trek, just a little Next Generation back in the day.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#118  Postby tuco » Mar 15, 2022 3:43 pm

Those who signed up for the newsletter, see above posts, already got this in email but those who did not might be interested:

The launch of our uncrewed Artemis I Moon mission is fast approaching, and we’re inviting you to join us for the final test before liftoff.

Starting March 17, our teams will roll the 322-foot-tall Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft out of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida and onto the launch pad for the first time.

Join us for a live broadcast of the rollout starting at 5 p.m. EDT on March 17, which will include live remarks from NASA Administrator Bill Nelson and other guests. Coverage will air on NASA Television, the NASA app, and our official social media channels.
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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#119  Postby felltoearth » Mar 17, 2022 1:29 am

Spearthrower wrote:Imagine how disappointed they'll be when it's just a bunch of names of dead humans.

And no credit card numbers.


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Re: Back to the Moon in Five Years?

#120  Postby felltoearth » Jul 23, 2022 12:02 am

Three launch windows announced.

Exploration Ground Systems – Artemis
Final work continues to prepare the Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida for Artemis I. Teams have identified placeholder dates for potential launch opportunities. They include: 

Aug. 29 at 8:33 a.m. EDT (Two-hour launch window); Landing Oct. 10 
Sept. 2 at 12:48 p.m. (Two-hour launch window); Landing Oct. 11 
Sept. 5 at 5:12 p.m. (90-minute launch window); Landing Oct. 17 



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