aufbahrung wrote:They knew how to imagine in those days without a CPU doing the heavy lifting for them.

Yeah? Why don't you show us how easy it is to produce some artwork with just a CPU then?

The_Piper wrote:

newolder wrote:

The_Piper wrote:You can't fly a helicopter on Mars, the atmosphere is too thin. Landing anything anywhere there is probably the biggest challenge.

NASA JPL disagree.

Mission web page link

The Mars Helicopter is a technology demonstration that will travel to the Red Planet with the Mars 2020 rover. It will attempt controlled flight in Mars' thin atmosphere, which may enable more ambitious missions in the future.

Meanwhile... What is the OP's definition of an"other habitable world"? How do we know what worlds are habitable? By whom?

This is one of those times that I'm happy to be wrong.

I feel one should always be happy to be wrong, and (critically) to adapt ones thinking to better reflect observational reality.

RS

theropod wrote:I feel one should always be happy to be wrong, and (critically) to adapt ones thinking to better reflect observational reality.

RS

Now just hold on a minute there, Mister. You can’t just go around changing your mind cos of evidence and stuff. Y’all sound like one of those scientist types. And that ain’t right.

Smells like sorcery.

BlackBart wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:They knew how to imagine in those days without a CPU doing the heavy lifting for them.

Yeah? Why don't you show us how easy it is to produce some artwork with just a CPU then?

Is AI at its current level of sophistication capable of producing art, or is it merely a 'filter' through which humans are expressing themselves on the canvas / screen / printout paper?
This recent article in Scientific American is quite interesting. (It was prompted by the first ever auction at Christie's of an "AI-generated" painting)...

Can AI Create True Art?
And if it can, what are the implications for the future of creativity?

By Ken Weiner on November 12, 2018

As AI becomes an unstoppable force, it raises some difficult questions about the future role of humans in an increasingly automated world. Initial studies are showing that we can add the most value by focusing on four key areas: critical thinking, problem solving, managing human interactions, and above all else, expressing creativity. In short, our future role involves embracing these last bastions of human exclusivity and becoming more “human.”

But just last month, AI-generated art arrived on the world auction stage under the auspices of Christie’s, proving that artificial intelligence can not only be creative but also produce world class works of art—another profound AI milestone blurring the line between human and machine.
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Full article at:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/can-ai-create-true-art/

theropod wrote:

The_Piper wrote:

newolder wrote:

The_Piper wrote:You can't fly a helicopter on Mars, the atmosphere is too thin. Landing anything anywhere there is probably the biggest challenge.

NASA JPL disagree.

Mission web page link

The Mars Helicopter is a technology demonstration that will travel to the Red Planet with the Mars 2020 rover. It will attempt controlled flight in Mars' thin atmosphere, which may enable more ambitious missions in the future.

Meanwhile... What is the OP's definition of an"other habitable world"? How do we know what worlds are habitable? By whom?

This is one of those times that I'm happy to be wrong.

I feel one should always be happy to be wrong, and (critically) to adapt ones thinking to better reflect observational reality.

RS

I agree with the second part of the sentence, but I'm not always happy to be wrong. I'll use the example of how I said on the night of the 2016 election that Donald Trump didn't have a prayer of winning.

Piper,

Even in this you should be happy. Why? Because it showed you what voter apathy, and mass media pundit/poll influence, can do to diminish the will of the people. Now you, and I hope many many others, will not only get out and vote, but also work to install a functional government. You don’t have to be happy with the results of a screwed up election, but you are now far more aware of the factors at work, and that should cheer you up. Imagine not understanding that elections have consequences. Now that would be some sad shit.

RS

"Barsoom" is the prefered nomenclature, dude. They only photograph the safe parts because they don't want to cause a global panic. Here's an unsafe bit:

laklak wrote:... because they don't want to cause a global panic.

Sounds legit!

This thread has me fagged out.

RS

Looks like auf hasn't looked at any metal album covers lately, space paintings are back!