Do women have an extra rib?

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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#21  Postby Weaver » Feb 03, 2011 6:09 pm

Back when I was in high school (25th anniversary this summer!) a student in my Agriculture Technology class asserted, during hunting season, that game wardens could tell whether you'd shot a doe or a buck by counting the number of ribs on a dressed out (therefore missing primary sexual organs) carcass.

Fortunately, the teacher (otherwise somewhat of a Bible thumper) corrected him before I had a chance to shout WTF?
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#22  Postby John P. M. » Feb 03, 2011 6:29 pm

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Anther thing is, if a teacher sees that his/her pupil is simply not able to grasp a certain concept, is it then OK to make up something untrue because that's easier to grasp?

Well it's what happens in schools now. A simplified version of the atom, an incorrect theory of gravity, and so on.


That's comparing apples and oranges. God creating animals each after their own 'kind', versus common descent. Special creation is not a simplification of evolution. It's not a version of evolution either.
Not to mention all the events in early Genesis that don't gel with reality.

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I even got taught that the prayer mat in Islam is holy - official guidelines from the government - actually there is nothing holy about the prayer mat, it is simply to provide a clean comfortable space to pray.


Well, 'holy' can mean that it is viewed as sacred, and/or revered, and/or treated with utmost respect by the practitioner. Which is the case with the prayer mat, I would think. It doesn't have to mean 'supernaturally' holy, or 'magical'.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#23  Postby Paul1 » Feb 03, 2011 6:54 pm

John P. M. wrote:
Paul1 wrote:
Anther thing is, if a teacher sees that his/her pupil is simply not able to grasp a certain concept, is it then OK to make up something untrue because that's easier to grasp?

Well it's what happens in schools now. A simplified version of the atom, an incorrect theory of gravity, and so on.


That's comparing apples and oranges.

Hey, it's not my argument.

My response is that not understanding how or why we exist does not have to result in some kind of philosophical existential panic, and that I openly admit I have no clue as to how the universe came to be. Hence I would rather consider all options and continue to find the truth than pretend a god does exist just to satisfy potentially existentially uncomfortable questions.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#24  Postby willhud9 » Feb 03, 2011 9:15 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
willhud9 wrote:really? Christians believe that? Even when I heard the story as a tiny kid I kinda figured man had an extra rib and god gave it to eve so that they could have equal ribs. :P



Even as a tiny child, when you were brought up as an atheist, then later found your belief in god? :think:


I never said I was "brought" up as anything. I was left to make my own choices. I did have a children's bible courtesy of grandparents, but they were just stories to a kid of 7-8 years old, akin to fairy tales.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#25  Postby Onyx8 » Feb 05, 2011 8:12 am

Now you're getting it.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#26  Postby AlohaChris » Feb 05, 2011 2:43 pm

Weaver wrote:Back when I was in high school (25th anniversary this summer!) a student in my Agriculture Technology class asserted, during hunting season, that game wardens could tell whether you'd shot a doe or a buck by counting the number of ribs on a dressed out (therefore missing primary sexual organs) carcass.

Fortunately, the teacher (otherwise somewhat of a Bible thumper) corrected him before I had a chance to shout WTF?


I'm somewhat ashamed to admit this, but I held that belief up until my first college anatomy course. I had been fed this tripe non-stop through 12 years of Catholic school.

So I'm sitting in one of the first lectures in my anatomy class and the professor asks: "What are some distinctive features that can help us determine if a skeleton is male or female?" "KNOWING" the answer to this easy one, my hand shot up. "Yes, go ahead" said the prof. "A female skeleton has an extra rib that would differentiate it from a male skeleton" said I.

Some laughter ensued, after which the prof went on to explain how this was an incorrect, though often asserted 'fact'. I felt like an idiot and also felt betrayed by my previous 'teachers'. The upside was that it solidified my position and energized me to discover that there was much that I had been taught that wasn't so.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#27  Postby Humphrey Osmond » Feb 05, 2011 5:44 pm

Paul1 wrote:I thought it was a joke, but: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4365 ... still I just can't tell.


Go with your instinct on this one...

Poe's Law, ...in this case, it's a POE.

Landover Baptist Church does not exist, it's probably one of the better known fundie-spoofs out there, ...the attention to detail is stunning though, as it is so over the top it seems real.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#28  Postby CherryBomb » Feb 06, 2011 12:07 am

My partner's 73 year old grandmother truly and honestly believes women have an extra rib. She is a devout Catholic. When she said this over lunch one day, noticing how everyone else kind of just gave each other shifty looks and changed the topic I gathered trying to point out that they don't would be a waste of time.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#29  Postby damo » Jan 02, 2016 9:33 pm

Paul,
If somebody, possibly intelligent, believes that women have an extra rib doesn't make them less intelligent. It makes them less informed. Please!
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#30  Postby laklak » Jan 02, 2016 11:00 pm

It wasn't a rib, it was the penis bone.

A religious academic has kicked up a sacrilegious storm by saying the Biblical creation myth actually intends to say that God created Eve out of Adam’s penis bone.


http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/theory-adam-s-penis-bone-creating-eve-causes-outrage
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#31  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Jan 02, 2016 11:15 pm

laklak wrote:It wasn't a rib, it was the penis bone.

A religious academic has kicked up a sacrilegious storm by saying the Biblical creation myth actually intends to say that God created Eve out of Adam’s penis bone.


http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/theory-adam-s-penis-bone-creating-eve-causes-outrage

You beat me to it laddie! :thumbup:
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#32  Postby Ironclad » Jan 02, 2016 11:29 pm

I can't see what all the fuss is about. An extra rib would give extra protection to the gubbins inside, no? Wimmins, you don't know when you got it good
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#33  Postby Onyx8 » Jan 02, 2016 11:32 pm

:lol: Missing penis-bone. It does make more sense.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#34  Postby Ironclad » Jan 02, 2016 11:37 pm

By 'bone' you mean splint, right...?
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#35  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Jan 02, 2016 11:39 pm

Onyx8 wrote::lol: Missing penis-bone. It does make more sense.

More a case of the ladies selecting the men more carefully. A male with good hydraulics does not need a penis bone, and of course, as well as a dick that can stay up without having a bone, it also means the guy's circulatory system is good to. So, the erect-able penis was an "honest" signal as far as physical and biological fitness was concerned.
Those guys who could only have a boner with a bone tended to die earlier and father fewer offspring. So the penis bone died out in humans, although it was on the way out anyway in our clade.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#36  Postby laklak » Jan 02, 2016 11:46 pm

Missing that penis bone? Modern Medical Science to the rescue!

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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#37  Postby Animavore » Jan 03, 2016 12:24 am

Ribbed for her pleasure.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#38  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Jan 03, 2016 1:06 am

I want a 5 liter V8 with super-charger.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#39  Postby tolman » Jan 21, 2016 5:14 pm

Delvo wrote:
willhud9 wrote:really? Christians believe that?
Only a tiny sliver of a minority. Even a strict Biblical literalist has a much simpler interpretation available: Adam's number of ribs post-surgery was not inherited, just like any other surgical or accidental amputation is not inherited.

A Biblical literalist would have various possible simple explanations, once they were aware of the real situation.
In addition to the one you present, they could, for example, claim that the rib could have grown back either naturally or with divine assistance, or that the post-surgery Adam was the model both for Eve and for subsequent humans.
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Re: Do women have an extra rib?

#40  Postby laklak » Jan 21, 2016 10:15 pm

God is All-Knowing. He already knew Adam would get lonely so he gave him an extra rib in the beginning. He could have made Eve out of mud but His mum didn't want him to get all dirty again.
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