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#21  Postby james1v » Aug 05, 2011 2:19 pm

Octopuses, makes me think of eight pussies. :scratch: No wonder some here prefer the word! :think:
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#22  Postby Animavore » Aug 05, 2011 2:39 pm

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#23  Postby worldslaziestbusker » Aug 05, 2011 3:01 pm

Mazille wrote:
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What's your line of work, if I may be so bold to ask.



I am a swave and deboner marine scientician, who only smells like old fish most of the time.

I am a benthic ecologist and my specialty is soft sediment infauna: the worms and crustaceans burrowing in the mud on the seafloor. Thus, I have no linguistic expertise to offer on pluralising octopus, and I usually avoid trying. I can ask some specialists if you like, as I know some malacologists who specialise in the taxonomy of the cephalopods.

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#24  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 05, 2011 3:44 pm

Evolving wrote:Octopod, like tripod, would be the normal way of forming an English word from a third declension Greek (or Latin) noun: using the stem rather than the nominative.

Now back to Maz's question, which interests me strangely too.


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#25  Postby cavarka9 » Aug 05, 2011 4:07 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
Evolving wrote:Octopod, like tripod, would be the normal way of forming an English word from a third declension Greek (or Latin) noun: using the stem rather than the nominative.

Now back to Maz's question, which interests me strangely too.


There are rules.... in English!?! Why didn't anyone tell me! :grin:


no one called an english teacher
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#26  Postby Animavore » Aug 05, 2011 5:23 pm

I'm on a computer now. I word searched a PDF of The Ancestor's Tale. No find of octopod. In fact, he uses octopuses numerous times.

I must've dreamt it. :sigh:
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#27  Postby cavarka9 » Aug 05, 2011 5:32 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm on a computer now. I word searched a PDF of The Ancestor's Tale. No find of octopod. In fact, he uses octopuses numerous times.

I must've dreamt it. :sigh:

Lucky guess :grin: , you know what they say right, you cant guess (take a chance) then you cant EVOLVE! (be right) :lol:
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#28  Postby Animavore » Aug 05, 2011 5:33 pm

I read it somewhere dammit! :lay:
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#29  Postby cavarka9 » Aug 05, 2011 5:38 pm

Animavore wrote:I read it somewhere dammit! :lay:

maybe, maybe not. :smug:
Incidentally, this spawns a new topic, did any one had experienced the weird feeling of having read something or heard something in a movie and then you go back and check and it is not there, what's that!.
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#30  Postby HughMcB » Aug 05, 2011 5:54 pm

worldslaziestbusker wrote:My boss worked at an aquaculture facility where disappearing fish were blamed on staff. Indignant and blamelss blamees set up a camera to trap the thief, and found out it was the resident octopus, getting out of its own tank, feasting, and returning to its home, closing lids on the way. This poor sucker died when, on a hot summer day, the cooling system shut down. It was found at the doorway to the aqaurium, where it had been trying unsuccessfully to wedge itself under the door in an attempt to reach the outside world and cool, tasty freedom. Not bad for a short lived sack of muscle whose closest relatives on the family tree are snails.

Octopuffleupaguses can leave water? :shock:
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#31  Postby Animavore » Aug 05, 2011 6:03 pm

HughMcB wrote:
worldslaziestbusker wrote:My boss worked at an aquaculture facility where disappearing fish were blamed on staff. Indignant and blamelss blamees set up a camera to trap the thief, and found out it was the resident octopus, getting out of its own tank, feasting, and returning to its home, closing lids on the way. This poor sucker died when, on a hot summer day, the cooling system shut down. It was found at the doorway to the aqaurium, where it had been trying unsuccessfully to wedge itself under the door in an attempt to reach the outside world and cool, tasty freedom. Not bad for a short lived sack of muscle whose closest relatives on the family tree are snails.

Octopuffleupaguses can leave water? :shock:

:shock: That's where missing things go! I knew they were up to something. With their boneless bodies they can squeeze in just about any where and then fuck off back into the ocean before daybreak.
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#32  Postby Mazille » Aug 05, 2011 7:13 pm

HughMcB wrote:
worldslaziestbusker wrote:My boss worked at an aquaculture facility where disappearing fish were blamed on staff. Indignant and blamelss blamees set up a camera to trap the thief, and found out it was the resident octopus, getting out of its own tank, feasting, and returning to its home, closing lids on the way. This poor sucker died when, on a hot summer day, the cooling system shut down. It was found at the doorway to the aqaurium, where it had been trying unsuccessfully to wedge itself under the door in an attempt to reach the outside world and cool, tasty freedom. Not bad for a short lived sack of muscle whose closest relatives on the family tree are snails.

Octopuffleupaguses can leave water? :shock:

I know cuttlefish can:

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#33  Postby HughMcB » Aug 05, 2011 7:33 pm

So who'd win in a fight? Cuttlefish... or Jesus? :think:
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#34  Postby Mr.Samsa » Aug 06, 2011 1:06 am

Evolving wrote:Incredibly useful contribution: it's definitely not "octopi".

A pedantically correct plural, in line with the original classical Greek, would be "octopodes" (four syllables); but that's just silly, so there is no alternative to "octopuses", really.

Like omnibuses.


Although your reasoning is correct, your conclusion is not. Whilst "octopi" is etymologically incorrect, it is not "wrong" and is an acceptable plural of octopus. This is because language is not determined by etymology, it's determined by common use. I personally find "octopuses" to be clumsy, and find the rarer acceptable term "octopi" more fitting.

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#35  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Aug 06, 2011 2:09 am

Octo-pussies would be more fun. But perhaps that term should be reserved for massage parlours with eight models on staff! :-)
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#36  Postby Precambrian Rabbi » Sep 10, 2011 11:59 am

You're all wrong - if 1 creature is "Octopus", 2 creatures would clearly be "Dekaexipus".

Anyway - now that that's resolved - I thought this might be a good place to share a youtube vid that I recently stumbled across:

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#37  Postby DavidMcC » Jan 24, 2012 4:59 pm

I used to think it was "octopodes", but that turned out to be the plural for the species. I go for octpuses as it isn't aLatin name.
Anyhow, I wonder if this one should be called a "Hermit octopus", after those cute little crabs with a similar trick?
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