Question about skin and wearing a veil

inkaStepa · #1 by **inkaStepa** » Oct 14, 2011 2:26 am

I was tlaking to my Muslim friend and she told me that wearing a face veil protects against the sun and keeps the skin on the face more youthful as a consequence. I told her that the veil would have to be a lot thicker than a face veil usually is but she said it doesn't matter. Would that really work as a spf or no?

thaesofereode · #2 by **thaesofereode** » Oct 14, 2011 2:39 am

The other side of this question: I'd really have to wonder about vitamin D deficiency in these people. I hope they all take supplements.

inkaStepa · #3 by **inkaStepa** » Oct 15, 2011 1:59 am

Well...is she right?

They don't cover their hands....and in the summer they always wear sandals. I know she takes a daily multivitamin .

The_Metatron · #4 by **The_Metatron** » Oct 15, 2011 6:27 am

I'd say it depends on the material, don't you think? Does the answer matter? Can't you see it's nothing more than a feeble bit of apologetics to justify the ridiculous custom of forcing women to hide?

campermon · #5 by **campermon** » Oct 15, 2011 11:25 am

inkaStepa wrote:Well...is she right?

They don't cover their hands....and in the summer they always wear sandals. I know she takes a daily multivitamin .

"Which Fabrics are Best?

As a rule, light-colored, lightweight and loosely-woven fabrics do not offer much protection from the sun. That white T-shirt you slip on at the beach when you feel your skin burning provides only moderate protection from sunburn, with an average ultraviolet protection factor (UPF) of 7. At the other end of the spectrum, a long-sleeved dark denim shirt offers an estimated UPF of 1,700 – which amounts to a complete sun block. In general, clothing made of tightly-woven fabric best protects skin from the sun. The easiest way to test if a fabric can protect your skin is to hold it up to the light. If you can see through it, then UV radiation can penetrate it – "

http://www.skincancer.org/sun-protective-clothing.html

Plus what Metatron said.

Ciwan · #6 by **Ciwan** » Oct 17, 2011 8:54 am

Plus vitamin supplements are a new thing. What did Muslim women do for the past 1400 years before vitamin supplements ?

In any case, if a woman (any, not just Muslim) wishes to cover whole her body with fabrics, I personally don't mind. It doesn't effect me, so why should I care.

If however, such women start preaching it to me, my future children, .. etc Then I do mind.

Scot Dutchy · #7 by **Scot Dutchy** » Oct 17, 2011 9:17 am

Ciwan wrote:Plus vitamin supplements are a new thing. What did Muslim women do for the past 1400 years before vitamin supplements ?

In any case, if a woman (any, not just Muslim) wishes to cover whole her body with fabrics, I personally don't mind. It doesn't effect me, so why should I care.

If however, such women start preaching it to me, my future children, .. etc Then I do mind.

Muslim women have suffered badly due to the lack of vitamin D.
Rickets is very common and very painful disease.

Abstract

In view of the high incidence of rickets in infants of women practising purdah (the use of veils) in northern Nigeria we conducted a study on plasma calcium, phosphate, and serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25 OHD) concentrations in pregnant Nigerian women and in cord blood obtained from the newborns. Plasma calcium, phosphate, and serum 25 OHD concentrations were lower in practising women and their newborns than those not practising purdah and their infants, respectively. The concentrations of 25 OHD in all Nigerian women were greater than those observed in caucasian women in the United Kingdom

Cont.

My wife who worked as a volunteer nurce in Ethiopia told me also that the young babies who were carried on the backs of women completely covered also suffered badly from rickets.
These people are completely ignorant when it comes to sun exposure.

I'm With Stupid · #8 by **I'm With Stupid** » Oct 17, 2011 9:52 am

Funny that she gives what is a rather superficial reason for why she's wearing something that's supposed to protect her modesty. What's the point of looking young and then covering the fact up with a veil?

Grace · #9 by **Grace** » Oct 17, 2011 2:32 pm

The old men look like stewed prunes. The old women look like stewed prunes too. I don't see that the veil slows down the aging process one bit.

HughMcB · **#10** by **HughMcB** » Oct 17, 2011 5:06 pm

inkaStepa wrote:I was tlaking to my Muslim friend and she told me that wearing a face veil protects against the sun and keeps the skin on the face more youthful as a consequence. I told her that the veil would have to be a lot thicker than a face veil usually is but she said it doesn't matter. Would that really work as a spf or no?

Your skin needs to absorb sunlight to create Vitamin D. Depending on your skin pigmentation you may need more or less exposure to satisfy the amounts required. Basically white people need the least time in the sun whereas darker skin tones need more. Sometimes this can be three or four hours a day. So if she has a dark skin tone she may be in danger of vitamin D deficiency.

I have found that the religious always spin tales of how X, Y and Z are actually better for you (or bad for you) thus proving their god's divine wisdom, it's always bollocks supported by no scientific evidence whatsoever. Not eating pigs, circumcision, wearing a veil. It's all fucking baloney.

inkaStepa · **#11** by **inkaStepa** » Oct 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Wow that is not good. When she's in the house she doesn't wear anything on her head and I guess she gets light from the windows but maybe that's not enough. I have a question though- I work nights now and usually sleep during the day so I don't get much sunlight. Do you think I'll get ricketts from this???? Thanks!

z8000783 · **#12** by **z8000783** » Oct 20, 2011 6:54 pm

No but you might become SAD.

John

Scot Dutchy · **#13** by **Scot Dutchy** » Oct 23, 2011 9:07 am

z8000783 wrote:No but you might become SAD.

John

Well people who work constant night shift often suffer from sleep deprevation which in turn can cause depression.

The lack of sun is just very bad for the human body and spirit.

HughMcB · **#14** by **HughMcB** » Oct 24, 2011 12:52 pm

I think he means this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_a ... e_disorder

Scot Dutchy · **#15** by **Scot Dutchy** » Oct 24, 2011 1:32 pm

HughMcB wrote:I think he means this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_a ... e_disorder

Oh that SAD. Well my comments apply to that as well.

laklak · **#16** by **laklak** » Oct 24, 2011 2:26 pm

We all need sunshine. Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.

z8000783 · **#17** by **z8000783** » Oct 24, 2011 2:27 pm

We need rainbow?

John

Scot Dutchy · **#18** by **Scot Dutchy** » Oct 24, 2011 2:28 pm

Why not?

They are pretty.

z8000783 · **#19** by **z8000783** » Oct 24, 2011 2:30 pm

They won't be amused.

John

quisquose · **#20** by **quisquose** » Jan 26, 2012 8:53 am

Rising vitamin D deficiency in the UK got quite a bit of airtime on Radio 4 this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16726841

No mention of ethnicity or sex, but a family member who works in a children's hospital has previously mentioned her concerns about high levels of rickets in children of parents from the Indian sub-continent.

Whether there is any connection with wearing clothing designed to keep the sun out, in a country where there is bugger all sun, I don't know.

:dunno: