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Sacrifice your life - my new mantra

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 11, 2017 7:04 pm

It has become apparent to me that I need to sacrifice my current life in order to move forward. I've been drinking, smoking, taking drugs and pacing for many years now with no other interests/vocations to speak of. Just the state of not being consumed in a project was...liberating; to exist in a state of pure free contemplation, experiencing my own thoughts free from external preoccupations. I need to sacrifice those pleasures for a greater good. I need to sacrifice my life for a good cause, writing and reading psychology, volunteering, socialising, trying to do some good in the world for others. It's a revelation. Celebrate with me!
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#2  Postby tuco » Jan 11, 2017 8:56 pm

Its possible to get hooked from one pleasure, as you put it, to another.

I realize that it might be difficult, even impossible, for you to see it this way at the moment but at least consider that the new could even be better than the old. To give up something to gain something else and at the end its the balance what matters. It can be positive. And if it would, it could not be a sacrifice no more as you would gain, not just lose for some sake, something real.
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#3  Postby DavidMcC » Jan 13, 2017 2:52 pm

KIR, I hope you realise that the phrase, "sacrifice your life" means "commit suicide"! Apparently you didn't mean it that way.
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#4  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 13, 2017 7:30 pm

Kill the old self, so that something new can take it's place. Haven't managed it yet; but tomorrow is another day!
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#5  Postby tuco » Jan 13, 2017 7:34 pm

You took it to another level I see. Ahead now eh? That's a change.
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#6  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 13, 2017 8:54 pm

KIR, how is this time different from the last? Quit talking about it and do it. If you can't, seek professional help.
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#7  Postby Fallible » Jan 13, 2017 9:23 pm

If I may, you seem intent on making some grand gesture that you can't hope to live up to. But I've tried to tell you that before to no effect. So.
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#8  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 13, 2017 9:44 pm

Thanks Fallible - you make me want to prove you wrong. Psychodynamic FTW!
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#9  Postby scott1328 » Jan 14, 2017 7:00 am

Sacrifice your life?

What nonsense.

You don't neeed to do the world any favors. You need to retire from the drama queen business.
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#10  Postby crank » Jan 14, 2017 9:11 am

You'll get better press if you use a crucifix.

I'm feeling like ^^ Scott up there, sounds a bit like a drama queen, too much the 'hey lookie here, i'm gonna go do good'. Also, what the fuck is 'pacing', am I exposing what an old fuck I am , or you actually mean the walking back and forth kind? Was there a lot of coke and/or crank in the drug mix? If not, I don't get the pacing thing.

If you tell yourself shit like 'I'll never have another drop' , or "I'll never have another ciggie', I think is a great way to set yourself up for failure. Kinda like what Fallible is saying. With such absolutes, if you slip and bum a smoke off a buddy, or have a beer on hot afternoon, you have failed, you crossed that threshold you set up to define success, a second smoke or drink isn't any worse, you're already past fail. I think this is a reason a lot of folk fail at this stuff, or I should say it's a strategy more likely to contribute to failure than to aid in success.
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#11  Postby scott1328 » Jan 14, 2017 3:26 pm

DavidMcC wrote:
scott1328 wrote:Sacrifice your life?

What nonsense.

You don't neeed to do the world any favors. You need to retire from the drama queen business.

Apparently, he doesn't mean die, even though that is the only proper way to understand the words he actually used. (See the his post #4 above).

Do you think I am daft enough to have thought KiR was contemplating suicide?

KiR is merely being overly dramatic. While it is true that he needs to refocus his attention to less self destructive behaviors. These grandiose public declarations and loudly broadcast personal goals have proven to be self defeating and simply add to the depression and self loathing that occur upon each relapse and makes recovery more and more difficult.
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#12  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 14, 2017 6:27 pm

CdesignProponentsist wrote:KIR, how is this time different from the last? Quit talking about it and do it. If you can't, seek professional help.

It feels different. I've even sent an email applying for some voluntary work - something I've been meaning to do for...years. I am now doing it. My sig is accurate. :thumbup:
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#13  Postby tuco » Jan 14, 2017 6:37 pm

gj! When I was volunteering for AI there were quite a few mating, and other social, opportunities.

I could take when we did Free Tibet vegetarian party but then thematic Chernobyl evening with some docu and lecture came there people came to eat and drink and I quit lol
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#14  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 14, 2017 7:15 pm

scott1328 wrote:
KiR is merely being overly dramatic. While it is true that he needs to refocus his attention to less self destructive behaviors. These grandiose public declarations and loudly broadcast personal goals have proven to be self defeating and simply add to the depression and self loathing that occur upon each relapse and makes recovery more and more difficult.


But it is dramatic - it's a rebirth, and the end of an era. Seems pretty dramatic to me. I never experienced self-loathing when I fell off the wagon - I had justified my consumption as being ok - that's why I fell off. It hasn't been getting harder to quit, it's been getting easier, as I become more practiced.
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#15  Postby Fallible » Jan 14, 2017 7:38 pm

It's only a dramatic re-birth if it happens. If it doesn't, it's just another 'failure'. I want you to succeed, that's the only reason I keep replying.
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#16  Postby tuco » Jan 14, 2017 7:40 pm

btw if you are serious about doing something for NGOs just go see them, instead of email.
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#17  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 14, 2017 8:01 pm

Fallible wrote:It's only a dramatic re-birth if it happens. If it doesn't, it's just another 'failure'. I want you to succeed, that's the only reason I keep replying.


Oh it's happening. I appreciate you want me to succeed, and that helps, as I want to be agreeable. That you are now showing some signs of frustration at my repeated failures causes me some distress and is a motivator to succeed where I have failed in the past. Cheers.
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#18  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 14, 2017 8:03 pm

tuco wrote:btw if you are serious about doing something for NGOs just go see them, instead of email.


I applied online through the volunteer Gloucestershire website. Any recommendations for organisations to apply to? I've got nothing but free time and the devil makes work for idle hands...
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#19  Postby tuco » Jan 14, 2017 8:13 pm

Not really, I have experience only with AI and animal shelters. Depends what you like to do, what you expect in return and what you believe in. Socializing with people of common interest. From my experience its different from applying for a job which is often frustrating due to number of rejections. Here I am, willing and able, give me something to do.
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#20  Postby Fallible » Jan 14, 2017 9:13 pm

Keep It Real wrote:
Fallible wrote:It's only a dramatic re-birth if it happens. If it doesn't, it's just another 'failure'. I want you to succeed, that's the only reason I keep replying.


Oh it's happening. I appreciate you want me to succeed, and that helps, as I want to be agreeable. That you are now showing some signs of frustration at my repeated failures causes me some distress and is a motivator to succeed where I have failed in the past. Cheers.


I'm not frustrated by your 'failures'. I'm sad that you keep doing things that don't work.
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