A Song of Ice and Fire.

Jerome Da Gnome · **#261** by **Jerome Da Gnome** » Nov 02, 2014 4:19 pm

Holy xpost batman!!

Jerome Da Gnome · **#262** by **Jerome Da Gnome** » Nov 02, 2014 4:21 pm

3 to 1 odds Jon is Targaryen.

willhud9 · **#263** by **willhud9** » Nov 02, 2014 5:24 pm

Try saying Hodor ten times fast. o.o

Made of Stars · **#264** by **Made of Stars** » Nov 02, 2014 10:31 pm

Yes, this is a spoiler free thread (i.e. You can post whatever)

Jerome Da Gnome · **#265** by **Jerome Da Gnome** » Nov 02, 2014 10:47 pm

So the new non-speaking Champion for the trial is the Mountain that Rides. I don't get why this is even a mystery. His brother is probably the big monk farmer on that little island you can only walk to when the tide is out. So, will they fight at some point?

Cersei makes the walk (curious how they portray this in the film) but the champion wins. We have seen her at the top, then to bottom, she will crawl back only to be killed by the little brother.

willhud9 · **#266** by **willhud9** » Nov 02, 2014 10:53 pm

I don't think Cersei will die. I think she will actually have a change of character, like Jaime, and come to a point of solace with herself. The Lannister line can be rebuilt (I mean Kevan's line is pretty much gone at this point especially with his death) and it can start afresh.

Jerome Da Gnome · **#267** by **Jerome Da Gnome** » Nov 02, 2014 10:59 pm

Right, it feels like they are working towards redemption, both twins .. but idk ... tricksey writer he is.

Who do you think is the little brother that kills her? It has to happen, the first parts of the prediction have happened.

willhud9 · **#268** by **willhud9** » Nov 03, 2014 12:28 am

Prediction fiction. Cersei only believes the prediction is real due to her superstitious paranoia. Tyrion may end up killing her, but I doubt.

Jerome Da Gnome · **#269** by **Jerome Da Gnome** » Nov 03, 2014 1:24 am

"When will I wed the prince?" she asked.
"Never. You will wed the king."

happened

"I will be queen, though?" asked the younger her.
"Aye." Malice gleamed in Maggys yellow eyes. "Queen you shall be . . . until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear."

happening

.. "Will the king and I have children?" she asked.
"Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you."

happened

The old woman was not done with her, however. "Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds," she said. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."

hasn't happened

"I get three questions too," her friend insisted. And when Cersei tugged upon her arm, she wriggled free and turned back to the crone. "Will I marry Jaime?" she blurted out.
You stupid girl, the queen thought, angry even now. Jaime does not even know you are alive. Back then her brother lived only for swords and dogs and horses . . . and for her, his twin.
.... "Not Jaime, nor any other man," said Maggy. "Worms will have your maidenhead. Your death is here tonight, little one. Can you smell her breath? She is very close."

happened

willhud9 · **#270** by **willhud9** » Nov 03, 2014 1:38 am

Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Coastal · **#271** by **Coastal** » Nov 04, 2014 9:08 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Coastal wrote:Does anybody have a reliable date for when the next book in the series will be released?

No, but George released an excerpt chapter, there is a point of view from Hodor:

https://twitter.com/GRRM/status/456824016641486848

....

Thomas Eshuis · **#272** by **Thomas Eshuis** » Nov 04, 2014 9:16 am

willhud9 wrote:Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Indeed. By the descriptions and actions of R'hllor and his creeds, I think, if he exists, he's far more likely to be some kind of powerfull demon than an actual god.

scott1328 · **#273** by **scott1328** » Nov 04, 2014 2:05 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
willhud9 wrote:Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Indeed. By the descriptions and actions of R'hllor and his creeds, I think, if he exists, he's far more likely to be some kind of powerfull demon than an actual god.

How does one distinguish a powerful demon from a god?

Spearthrower · **#274** by **Spearthrower** » Nov 04, 2014 2:37 pm

scott1328 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
willhud9 wrote:Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Indeed. By the descriptions and actions of R'hllor and his creeds, I think, if he exists, he's far more likely to be some kind of powerfull demon than an actual god.

How does one distinguish a powerful demon from a god?

Turn them over and shake them. If it rattles, it's a demon.

willhud9 · **#275** by **willhud9** » Nov 04, 2014 4:11 pm

scott1328 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
willhud9 wrote:Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Indeed. By the descriptions and actions of R'hllor and his creeds, I think, if he exists, he's far more likely to be some kind of powerfull demon than an actual god.

How does one distinguish a powerful demon from a god?

How does one distinguish between a powerful wizard, demon, or god? :think:

Animavore · **#276** by **Animavore** » Nov 04, 2014 4:15 pm

willhud9 wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
willhud9 wrote:Proves nothing. Just as Melisandre's magic doesn't prove that R'hllor is real.

Indeed. By the descriptions and actions of R'hllor and his creeds, I think, if he exists, he's far more likely to be some kind of powerfull demon than an actual god.

How does one distinguish a powerful demon from a god?

How does one distinguish between a powerful wizard, demon, or god?

I guess it depends on how well suited they are to software installation, virtual image mounting or becoming self-aware.

willhud9 · **#277** by **willhud9** » Nov 04, 2014 4:34 pm

........I don't get it.

:waah:

Animavore · **#278** by **Animavore** » Nov 12, 2014 1:14 pm

willhud9 wrote:........I don't get it.

Esoteric computer language for the win.

Animavore · **#279** by **Animavore** » Jan 13, 2015 3:27 pm

Benjen Stark is not Cold Hands.

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/G ... 69419.html

All your salty tears belong to me.

trogs · **#280** by **trogs** » Jan 13, 2015 3:56 pm

Animavore wrote:Benjen Stark is not Cold Hands.

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/G ... 69419.html

All your salty tears belong to me.

Silly fans. Why should GRRM miss an opportunity to kill Benjen on-screen?

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