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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#41  Postby Agrippina » Mar 18, 2016 6:29 am

NamelessFaceless wrote:I see it's $19.95 on US Amazon.


It should also be on Barnes & Noble soon. Please look for the best price between them. :thumbup:
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#42  Postby Agrippina » Mar 18, 2016 6:59 am

Here are the links and prices.

Rationalising the Bible - Volume 1 - The Torah, available at Amazon in the UK with free postage at at GPB15.10; from Lulu (USA) $14.96.

Rationalising the Bible - Volume 2 - Conquest, Kings, Poetry and Prophecy available at Lulu, price $14.80.

Coming up: Rationalising the Bible - Volume 3 - The New Testament (end March)

In the pipeline:
Rationalising the Bible Series - Book 1 - Genesis
Rationalising the Bible Series - Book 2 - Exodus

Still in progress:
Rationalising the Bible Series - Book 3 - Leviticus

Still an intention:
Book 4 - Numbers
Book 5 - Deuteronomy
Book 6 - History & Philosophy
Book 7 - Prophecy
Book 8 - The Apocrypha
Book 9 - The Gospels
Book 10 - The Epistles and Revelation

The names are first passes, and the idea to combine books is also under consideration. There's a lot of work there, all depending on how long I remain able to sit at a computer and work. The thinking is that some of the books are long, and others very short, so they don't warrant a whole book each, Job and Ruth spring to mind. So I'll make it up as I go along. Right now, Leviticus is really boring, so I'm trying to liven it up by linking it to the Maimonides list of 613 laws, numbering them as I go along to see if I agree that there are actually 613 of them, or more, or less. But I'm procrastinating because it's tedious. :roll:

ETA: While I'm working on the new series, I'm also blogging about what I'm working on, in the same way I did with the original manuscript. I've started writing about Genesis, in case anyone wants to read chapter summaries.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#43  Postby DougC » Mar 19, 2016 7:10 pm

Bookmarked


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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#44  Postby Agrippina » Mar 31, 2016 5:38 am

The first book arrived yesterday, so today I'll be combine through it to give it the final go-ahead for putting it out there.

Something is bothering me, and I obsess when something bothers me so I need some input.

I've done the text in 11 point helvetica, which looks terrific on the screen but in an A5 sized book looks a little too big for my taste. But then I prefer smaller, neater fonts, and also sans serif. Some people like Times New Roman, I don't. I like no fancy frills. Which is why I use Helvetica. But what about Arial? It's tighter, more compact and would probably reduce the page numbers, but in single spacing might make the text a little too tight.

Here's a screenshot to give you an idea. Which do you, the readers, prefer. The top one is 10 point Arial, the bottom 11 point helvetica.

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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#45  Postby Scar » Mar 31, 2016 6:47 am

I feel like the bottom one is better. Keep in mind that some of your readers might have worse eyes than you. My Mom would totally not read the arial 10 version.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#46  Postby TopCat » Mar 31, 2016 7:11 am

I'd incline towards the 11. We use Calibri 11 for all our company's printed documentation; I know it's a different font but I've tried 10 and it's definitely too small. Subjective I know! The Arial does look a bit on the tight side, too, to me.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#47  Postby cyghost » Mar 31, 2016 7:52 am

laklak wrote:I'll definitely be ordering it. I'm going to track you down next time we're in SA and make you sign it for me.

If you get to Cape Town, I'd like to buy you a beer for all the time you have made me laugh :thumbup:
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#48  Postby Agrippina » Mar 31, 2016 8:05 am

Thank you for the responses, yes I tend to second-guess myself so I need to ask just in case. My kids, and my DH all say what you, Scar, and TopCat say. Odd, I don't have Calibri on my system, so I'll stay with Helvetica. Thanks again for responding. I must say it's very gratifying holding your own book in your hand. I'm going to read through it today, make the final adjustments to the text from a single manuscript to a split one, so there are sentences that need changing. Watch this space. :grin:
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#49  Postby Agrippina » Mar 31, 2016 10:22 am

The second one arrive this morning. I'm a little overwhelmed by how much proof-reading I need to do now.

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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#50  Postby DougC » Apr 01, 2016 12:24 am

I do like the cover design.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#51  Postby Agrippina » Apr 01, 2016 6:05 am

Thank you. My son did it. He's quite clever. :thumbup:
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#52  Postby Agrippina » Apr 08, 2016 8:25 am

I need some input, so please give me your opinions on the following. Because I had to split the manuscript into three volumes, I wanted to set up the one on the New Testament as a separate volume, with its own introduction. Originally I put an essay about the period between the exile and the birth of Jesus in the introduction, but I thought even that needed a bit of an introduction. So what do you think of this:

This book continues the rationalisation of the Bible, following on the previous two which covered the books of the Old Testament.
In this volume, I make my observations following my initial first reading of the entire collection of Gospels and Epistles, which led to my reading through them a few more times in order to gain insight into Christianity, and the religion of Jesus.
The god of the Old Testament, known to Christians as “God the Father” is portrayed as a less violent and demanding deity than that of the Old Testament. It is fairly obvious when reading the entire anthology of books, from Genesis to Revelation, that there is little consistency in the portrayal of the deity.
In the beginning of the Old Testament, he is portrayed as a vengeful god who has no compunction about destroying his creation when disappointed. Then he regrets having done this because he realises that the destruction did not prevent his creation becoming exactly what they were before the destruction. He then becomes a patriarchal god, demanding subservience from his children, with threats of dire punishment should they not conform.
In the way of the authoritarian parent, he does not carry out the threat, but rather takes them into exile, and then incites regret in the abductors, sending them home to build even bigger, and better places for his worship. Then, when they continue to disobey his laws, he sends overlords to rule over them in their home state. When this fails to subdue them, he sends himself, as his son, to persuade them. When this doesn’t work, he kills himself (or his son) which causes the few followers to garner disciples in an attempt to persuade the people previously excluded from the worship of the “creator god” to invent new, less demanding ways, to worship him.
This is the background of the New Testament. New people, a thousand years after the invention of the god of the Old Testament, reinvent him to suit their world, and their, better-educated, way of life. However, we know from history that rather than rely on their god to mete out the harsh punishments previously promised, the followers of this new religion devised new, more vicious, and actual punishments on non-followers.
This book covers the writings that incited the worship of God personified as his son.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#53  Postby Sendraks » Apr 08, 2016 10:08 am

I find the personalisation at the start of the second paragraph jarring with the rest of the text, which is written in a more matter of fact manner. I would redraft that first sentence along the following lines.

In this volume, the observations are based from extensive reading and re-reading of the entire collection of Gospels and Epistles, in order to gain insight into Christianity, and the religion of Jesus.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#54  Postby Agrippina » Apr 08, 2016 11:36 am

Sendraks wrote:I find the personalisation at the start of the second paragraph jarring with the rest of the text, which is written in a more matter of fact manner. I would redraft that first sentence along the following lines.

In this volume, the observations are based from extensive reading and re-reading of the entire collection of Gospels and Epistles, in order to gain insight into Christianity, and the religion of Jesus.


Thanks Sendraks, I see what you're saying, I'll use that. Much appreciated. :thumbup: :cheers:
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#55  Postby Agrippina » Apr 11, 2016 6:53 am

OK, I'm going to post the link to the Lulu.com page for Volume 1, here.

It is available on Amazon, but that's still the first edition. It takes a couple of weeks to update the editions, so the one on Amazon is a "beta" version. The Lulu one was revised last weekend, and it's showing as the latest one.

If you want to take a look at it, it's on Google Books here. That one is the revised version.

Thank you so much everyone. I'm really grateful for every page read.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#56  Postby ElDiablo » Apr 12, 2016 2:40 am

I've glanced through the Google Books version. Very Impressive! It's easy to read and flows very well.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#57  Postby Agrippina » Apr 12, 2016 9:23 am

Thank you ElDiablo. I wanted to make it easy for non-academic people to read. I initially intended to write it as an academic paper, when I first started out, but then it grew, and my research and reading material sent me down paths I hadn't ever travelled. So I changed my mind to not submit it for academic review, but rather just decided out there for anyone who might need the Bible explained in simple terms. Over the years of writing it, I've had a few meetings with religious people where I discussed some of the topics without the discussions ending in a fight, because even though I do say what I do about the violence and the obvious manipulation of the stories to fit each other, I'm not completely disrespectful of what people want to believe.

I'm going to be reviewing it from time to time as more science becomes available. For example, I'm looking now at the digging that's happening at the site of the event that's thought to have killed the dinosaurs. once that research becomes available, I'll insert those results into my chapter on evolution.
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#58  Postby ElDiablo » Apr 12, 2016 1:34 pm

Agrippina wrote:So I changed my mind to not submit it for academic review, but rather just decided out there for anyone who might need the Bible explained in simple terms.

That's what I like about it, you broke it down into small enough chunks and provide enough support to show you've researched it. The reader has enough information to research it further. It's a good balance in my opinion.

Over the years of writing it, I've had a few meetings with religious people where I discussed some of the topics without the discussions ending in a fight, because even though I do say what I do about the violence and the obvious manipulation of the stories to fit each other, I'm not completely disrespectful of what people want to believe.

Yes, people believe the stuff for different reasons.


I'm going to be reviewing it from time to time as more science becomes available. For example, I'm looking now at the digging that's happening at the site of the event that's thought to have killed the dinosaurs. once that research becomes available, I'll insert those results into my chapter on evolution.

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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#59  Postby aban57 » Apr 12, 2016 1:41 pm

Agrippina wrote:Thank you ElDiablo. I wanted to make it easy for non-academic people to read. I initially intended to write it as an academic paper, when I first started out, but then it grew, and my research and reading material sent me down paths I hadn't ever travelled. So I changed my mind to not submit it for academic review, but rather just decided out there for anyone who might need the Bible explained in simple terms. Over the years of writing it, I've had a few meetings with religious people where I discussed some of the topics without the discussions ending in a fight, because even though I do say what I do about the violence and the obvious manipulation of the stories to fit each other, I'm not completely disrespectful of what people want to believe.

I'm going to be reviewing it from time to time as more science becomes available. For example, I'm looking now at the digging that's happening at the site of the event that's thought to have killed the dinosaurs. once that research becomes available, I'll insert those results into my chapter on evolution.


I have to say, this decision really made things easier for me :)
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Re: 'Rationalising the Bible'

#60  Postby Agrippina » Apr 13, 2016 4:31 am

Thank you aban57 for the hard work you did with editing it. I really appreciate that.
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