And those buried at sea?

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They rest in the sweet arms of Poseidon, of course. I pour a small libation in his honor every time I get on the boat. Can't hurt, eh?

laklak wrote:They rest in the sweet arms of Poseidon, of course. I pour a small libation in his honor every time I get on the boat. Can't hurt, eh?

Worked for Pascal.

Fenrir wrote:Have the catholics ever been progressive? About anything?

In a competitive market place, brand identity is everything and you want your consumers to reinforce that. I can understand the Catholic church setting down clear markers about what is Catholicism and what isn't, otherwise they'll just be indistinguishable from everything else and that leads to the flock straying. "Why be catholic, when I can get the same benefits with the Anglicans?" The Catholic Church is saying that a) their way is the only way to get said benefits and b) their way is specific in these respects.

Plus, as others have said, if you get to charge your flock for internments and all that jazz, you've got yourself a nice little earner but also send a clear message that yours is the "premium" way that delivers. The cheaper options just don't get you the same results.

Sendraks wrote:

Fenrir wrote:Have the catholics ever been progressive? About anything?

In a competitive market place, brand identity is everything and you want your consumers to reinforce that. I can understand the Catholic church setting down clear markers about what is Catholicism and what isn't, otherwise they'll just be indistinguishable from everything else and that leads to the flock straying. "Why be catholic, when I can get the same benefits with the Anglicans?" The Catholic Church is saying that a) their way is the only way to get said benefits and b) their way is specific in these respects.

Plus, as others have said, if you get to charge your flock for internments and all that jazz, you've got yourself a nice little earner but also send a clear message that yours is the "premium" way that delivers. The cheaper options just don't get you the same results.

There's a saying in conservative circles: "The people like the smack of firm government". I think there's a similar feeling among the followers of the RCC (muslims too). A feeling like, if this guy made the entire universe, he's not some lovey-dovey cosmic hippy. He's going to be one big, scary, arrogant, dangerous bastard and we'd better bow and scrape and live in fear of him. It's like abuse victims locked in an endless cycle of emotional dependency on their abuser. The RCC has figured out how to abuse its victims AND charge them for the privilege. It's the most brilliant criminal business model ever invented. The Mafia are amateurs next to this lot.

It's like Trump

Fenrir wrote:They only lifted the ban on cremation in 1963. They are just trying to keep their grubby fingers on people's lives.

One grudging backward step at a time.

Have the catholics ever been progressive? About anything?

Supporting the abolishment of 'trial by combat' and 'trial by ordeal' - which were the pre-Christian systems of determining who was wrong - in most of Europe should count for something, no?

Zwaarddijk wrote:

Fenrir wrote:They only lifted the ban on cremation in 1963. They are just trying to keep their grubby fingers on people's lives.

One grudging backward step at a time.

Have the catholics ever been progressive? About anything?

Supporting the abolishment of 'trial by combat' and 'trial by ordeal' - which were the pre-Christian systems of determining who was wrong - in most of Europe should count for something, no?

Yes indeed. Replacing them with the Inquisition wasn't quite so fluffy and beautiful.