Thomas Eshuis wrote:How's about the two, contradicting versions of genesis:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/contra_list.html

Someone already did that. Do you have another one?

Fenrir wrote:Watch the video, that should be plenty to get you started.

There is no video. The link didn't work. I asked for 1 contradiction, not a video. Do you have a contradiction?

BlackBart wrote:Ooh! I wonder which way this thread will go? Just plain ignoring the contradictions presented or the Argumentum Ad Emperors New Clothes AKA 'You don't understand the Bible' route? Place your bets!

I would put my bet on atheists don't follow directions very well and would do anything to avoid the truth, do you have a fucking contradiction?

DLH wrote:

angelo wrote:Jesus H Christ. Contradictions in the babble! Where can one begin? The whole thing is a contradiction right from the start. There's two creation tales for a start!

There two creation accounts are not contradictory, they are simply in two distinctly different orders. The first is chronological and the second is topical. The chronological one is, of course, in the correct order but the second one is given in order of the significance of man's perspective. They were created in the garden so then the garden is introduced; Adam was to name the animals so then the animals are introduced, etc. If some one gives a chronological account of their going to the store to buy bread it isn't a contradiction to give another account of the event having them getting bread at the store. They are only two different orders of the same account.

Nope that makes no sense. Try again.

I gave you dozens, why don't you tackle them?

Yes, I know your challenge specifically limited responders to one for some reason however I am disinclined to acquiesce to that request (to coin a phrase ).

Someone went to all that trouble making a video with a large number of perfectly acceptable contradictions so why not address them?

Come on now everyone stop being so smug and give him your contradictions
For can you not see how you are testing his patience with your non responses
And if you keep this up he may not bother coming back then how will you feel

Animavore wrote:How did Judas die, and what did he do with the money? Did he -

And he [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Matthew 27:5

-or-

Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Acts 1:18

?

Thank you for the contradiction. This is a difficult collection of scripture.

Matthew gave the method of suicide while Luke gave the results. Either Judas' rope or the tree limb broke and he fell down the cliff he tried to hang himself from and was split open by the rocks below.

Matthew was referring to a prophecy in the book of Zechariah 11:12, 13. He referred to it as "Jeremiah the prophet" most likely due to Jeremiah likely having been placed first in a group of books that included Zechariah. So Judas went to the Priests to return the money but they wouldn't accept it, and he threw it into the temple. The chief priests took it on his behalf and bought the potter's field to bury him in it. Matthew 26:14-16; 27:3-10

surreptitious57 wrote:Come on now everyone stop being so smug and give him your contradictions
For can you not see how you are testing his patience with your non responses
And if you keep this up he may not bother coming back then how will you feel

Thanks for the good advice. Do YOU have a contradiction?

How can saltwater and freshwater species co exist for forty years in the same waters

Why is God perfect but only capable of displaying human emotions which are imperfect

Why does the Bible say that insects only have four legs when they very obviously have six

How can the human race go from just eight to over seven billion without committing incest

Why does God expect humans to keep the Fifth Commandment while he breaks it with impunity

DLH wrote:Matthew gave the method of suicide while Luke gave the results. Either Judas' rope or the tree limb broke and he fell down the cliff he tried to hang himself from and was split open by the rocks below.

You seem to be ignoring a major part of the contradiction. In one story he throws his money back at the temple and then goes off and hangs himself almost immediately after. In the other he uses it to buy some land in which he trips, falls, and (laughably) bursts like a water balloon.

This is an irreconcilable contradiction.

The lord said that the Nile would dry up.
But this clearly never happened.

In the bible, God promises Joshua some land. Joshua later then claims the entire land as promised. Later on in the bible, the aging Joshua still says that, of the land he was promised by god, there were still large areas of land to be taken over.

How is it in genesis that god both creates the beasts before adam and then after creating adam, creates the beasts?
How does that work?

DLH wrote:

Animavore wrote:How did Judas die, and what did he do with the money? Did he -

And he [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Matthew 27:5

-or-

Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Acts 1:18

?

Thank you for the contradiction. This is a difficult collection of scripture.

Matthew gave the method of suicide while Luke gave the results. Either Judas' rope or the tree limb broke and he fell down the cliff he tried to hang himself from and was split open by the rocks below.

Matthew was referring to a prophecy in the book of Zechariah 11:12, 13. He referred to it as "Jeremiah the prophet" most likely due to Jeremiah likely having been placed first in a group of books that included Zechariah. So Judas went to the Priests to return the money but they wouldn't accept it, and he threw it into the temple. The chief priests took it on his behalf and bought the potter's field to bury him in it. Matthew 26:14-16; 27:3-10

How do you know this explanation is factually correct rather than, say, something made up on the spur of the moment?

DLH wrote:

angelo wrote:Jesus H Christ. Contradictions in the babble! Where can one begin? The whole thing is a contradiction right from the start. There's two creation tales for a start!

There two creation accounts are not contradictory, they are simply in two distinctly different orders.

The two statements aren't lies, they're just willful misrepresentations of the truth.

DLH wrote: The first is chronological and the second is topical.

Evidence?
Both claim that thing happened in sequence, both contradicting the other.

DLH wrote:The chronological one is, of course, in the correct order but the second one is given in order of the significance of man's perspective.

Again, evidence?

DLH wrote:They were created in the garden so then the garden is introduced; Adam was to name the animals so then the animals are introduced, etc. If some one gives a chronological account of their going to the store to buy bread it isn't a contradiction to give another account of the event having them getting bread at the store. They are only two different orders of the same account.

Your analogy would only be valid if someone told the account thusly:
1.1 I bought bread at the store.
1.2 Then the bread store was built.
1.3 Then I went to the bread store.
Which no-one would say.

DLH wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:How's about the two, contradicting versions of genesis:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/contra_list.html

Someone already did that. Do you have another one?

Plenty, but you've failed to succesfully adress this one.
Your assertions about the correct interpetation are exactly that: blind assertions.
You need to actually demonstrate that's the correct interpetation.

DLH wrote:

Fallible wrote:You're trying to convince people to post a contradiction by reasoning with the scriptures.

Do you have a contradiction?

Does it look like I can be lured into playing your silly game with you? You haven't even managed to answer a simple question in a coherent manner.

DLH wrote:

Fenrir wrote:Watch the video, that should be plenty to get you started.

There is no video. The link didn't work. I asked for 1 contradiction, not a video. Do you have a contradiction?

I reposted the link so that it works.
Refusing to adresss it because it's in video form, rather than text, is a pathetic excuse to avoid it.

DLH wrote:

Fallible wrote:What exactly is it you're trying to convince people of?

To post an alleged contradiction. Sorry if it's confusing. Do you have a contradiction?

How many visited Jebus's tomb in the morning after he was hanged? One, two, three or more? Were there two angels or just one? If all Jebuses disciples ran for the hills, who recorded what he said from the tree?

DLH wrote:

BlackBart wrote:Ooh! I wonder which way this thread will go? Just plain ignoring the contradictions presented or the Argumentum Ad Emperors New Clothes AKA 'You don't understand the Bible' route? Place your bets!

I would put my bet on atheists don't follow directions very well and would do anything to avoid the truth, do you have a fucking contradiction?

No one fucking cares what you would put your bet on. It's eminently fucking clear from every fucking post you've made since you got here that you're not fucking interested in approaching any fucking topic with any degree of fucking honesty. Is that fucking clear enough for you?