Song against naturalism
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Wortfish wrote:Blackadder wrote:
I think the idea of gods chucking thunderbolts should be interpreted poetically and metaphorically. However, I find it amusing that scientists cannot explain a very regular natural phenomenon with reference to natural causes. Perhaps lightning is a manifestation of divine power as much as it is electrostatic discharge.
Scot Dutchy wrote:When was the universe made? Before or after the earth?
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Wortfish wrote:Gen 1:1 indicates that the universe was made first.
Cito di Pense wrote:Hermit wrote:Wortfish wrote:300 years of science has not provided an explanation to replace the ancient belief in the divine generation of thunderbolts.
Or rainbows, for that matter. It's just so much more satisfying, not to mention useful, to imagine that rainbows are not merely a matter of light refracting through raindrops or mist, but that they are God's reminder to his own self not to drown planet earth once more. There's a side benefit too: We can waste our time wondering where all that water came from that was needed for such a deluge, and where it has disappeared to afterwards. It's truly mysterious, for it seems that right now there is only just enough water on the planet to raise water levels by another 80 metres once every crystal of ice has melted. Mount Ararat is 3,611metres high, and the Himalayas more than twice that much.
Oh, you could take every chunk of rock that rests above, say, less than 500 meters below sea level, toss it into the ocean basins, and there would not be a speck of rock less than 500 meters below the surface of a very wide ocean.
Alan B wrote:Wortfish wrote:Gen 1:1 indicates that the universe was made first.
You are missing the point. The 'Universe' (as we know it) didn't exist in the minds of the people at the time of Genesis. The Earth, consisting of local horizon to horizon (including the Sun and the 'stars that moved in the sky'), was their 'universe'. This ignorance persisted until fairly recently when the telescope was invented
Theories of the Universe
Scot Dutchy wrote:Alan B wrote:Wortfish wrote:Gen 1:1 indicates that the universe was made first.
You are missing the point. The 'Universe' (as we know it) didn't exist in the minds of the people at the time of Genesis. The Earth, consisting of local horizon to horizon (including the Sun and the 'stars that moved in the sky'), was their 'universe'. This ignorance persisted until fairly recently when the telescope was invented
Theories of the Universe
Exactly Alan. The universe was not part of their story and yet it is so enormous but the creationists cant handle it. All they argue about are the stupid details.
How did their wondrous deity manage to handle all that creativity? They dont know. Stop arguing about earth lets talk just universe. They have no solutions. They are completely lost. The Sun is a G2 star. Surely the prize of the universe made in his shape would be orbiting around a A star. He did not like us much. A crummy G2 star; a yellow dwarf? FFS we need to be at the top.
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