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#1  Postby DoctorE » Sep 19, 2013 9:23 am

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#2  Postby chairman bill » Sep 19, 2013 9:31 am

What a wanker that man is
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#3  Postby laklak » Sep 19, 2013 2:20 pm

I'm beginning to believe the Ray Comfort is actually the world's greatest and longest running Poe. There is no possible way that anyone with enough brain cells to string together a coherent sentence can believe the stuff he comes up with. This is one of his best, it ranks up there with the Banana Proof of God's Existence.
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#4  Postby Scar » Sep 19, 2013 3:01 pm

laklak wrote:I'm beginning to believe the Ray Comfort is actually the world's greatest and longest running Poe. There is no possible way that anyone with enough brain cells to string together a coherent sentence can believe the stuff he comes up with. This is one of his best, it ranks up there with the Banana Proof of God's Existence.


I've long ago come to that conclusion. That man is no idiot. He's milking idiots and he's prepared to spout whatever bullshit to do so.
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#5  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Sep 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Fucking Ray Comfort. What a tool bag.

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#6  Postby Shrunk » Sep 19, 2013 3:39 pm

I don't know what comment by Bill Nye he is responding to. From what Comfort says, I'm assuming it is that the Bible is wrong because it says the moon emits its own light. If so, then Comfort may not be wrong on this point, depending on the liguistics of the actual Bible passage. But, yeah, I have no idea what Beethoven has to do with it.
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#7  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Sep 19, 2013 5:29 pm

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laklak wrote:I'm beginning to believe the Ray Comfort is actually the world's greatest and longest running Poe. There is no possible way that anyone with enough brain cells to string together a coherent sentence can believe the stuff he comes up with. This is one of his best, it ranks up there with the Banana Proof of God's Existence.


I've long ago come to that conclusion. That man is no idiot. He's milking idiots and he's prepared to spout whatever bullshit to do so.


This indeed, Bananaman has a very very good business telling people what they want to hear and sometimes he needs to get out on the news sheets again so that people don't forget to buy his shit. The guy is a con artist who believes his own stupid shit.
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Re: Creationist says Bill Nye wrong about the Moon because...

#8  Postby Sityl » Sep 19, 2013 6:32 pm

Genesis 1:14-19 wrote:And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. ...


He was referencing this passage.
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#9  Postby orpheus » Sep 19, 2013 7:34 pm

I can't get the video to play in my phone right now. What's he saying?
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#10  Postby Precambrian Rabbi » Sep 19, 2013 10:21 pm

orpheus wrote:I can't get the video to play in my phone right now. What's he saying?

He gives a totally flawless, rational, and irrefutable argument for the existence of god that leaves all of us looking, frankly, rather stupid. The games up, Orpheus. It's over. We were wrong. There's no disputing the power and truth of Ray's words. All that's left to do is pack up the site, close down the servers, turn off the lights and head to our local church to repent and beg forgiveness for the arrogant denials of our pasts. It was good knowing you all. Sorry for any part I had in continuing our mutual delusion. Thank god for the light of Ray Comfort, whose logic has led us to water and made us think. :nod:
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#11  Postby Boyle » Sep 19, 2013 11:34 pm

Precambrian Rabbi wrote:
orpheus wrote:I can't get the video to play in my phone right now. What's he saying?

He gives a totally flawless, rational, and irrefutable argument for the existence of god that leaves all of us looking, frankly, rather stupid. The games up, Orpheus. It's over. We were wrong. There's no disputing the power and truth of Ray's words. All that's left to do is pack up the site, close down the servers, turn off the lights and head to our local church to repent and beg forgiveness for the arrogant denials of our pasts. It was good knowing you all. Sorry for any part I had in continuing our mutual delusion. Thank god for the light of Ray Comfort, whose logic has led us to water and made us think. :nod:

Fuck that, we should fleece all those super gullible atheists by selling them nonsensical books about the "evidence" for evolution. Richard Dawkins has already made a killing doing that, and Lord knows that there's plenty of rubes out there that'd take that hook.
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#12  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Sep 19, 2013 11:50 pm

Shrunk wrote:I don't know what comment by Bill Nye he is responding to. From what Comfort says, I'm assuming it is that the Bible is wrong because it says the moon emits its own light. If so, then Comfort may not be wrong on this point, depending on the liguistics of the actual Bible passage. But, yeah, I have no idea what Beethoven has to do with it.


I'm pretty sure that at the time of the authoring of the Bible, they believed that the moon emitted its own light. I could be wrong, but anything otherwise would have been rather advanced for the era.
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#13  Postby Calilasseia » Sep 20, 2013 12:09 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:
Shrunk wrote:I don't know what comment by Bill Nye he is responding to. From what Comfort says, I'm assuming it is that the Bible is wrong because it says the moon emits its own light. If so, then Comfort may not be wrong on this point, depending on the liguistics of the actual Bible passage. But, yeah, I have no idea what Beethoven has to do with it.


I'm pretty sure that at the time of the authoring of the Bible, they believed that the moon emitted its own light. I could be wrong, but anything otherwise would have been rather advanced for the era.


Except of course that if the Moon was a luminous source, there wouldn't be any phases.
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#14  Postby Shrunk » Sep 20, 2013 12:16 am

BTW, best performance ever:



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#15  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Sep 20, 2013 12:17 am

Calilasseia wrote:
CdesignProponentsist wrote:
Shrunk wrote:I don't know what comment by Bill Nye he is responding to. From what Comfort says, I'm assuming it is that the Bible is wrong because it says the moon emits its own light. If so, then Comfort may not be wrong on this point, depending on the liguistics of the actual Bible passage. But, yeah, I have no idea what Beethoven has to do with it.


I'm pretty sure that at the time of the authoring of the Bible, they believed that the moon emitted its own light. I could be wrong, but anything otherwise would have been rather advanced for the era.


Except of course that if the Moon was a luminous source, there wouldn't be any phases.


Agreed.
But I don't think they had made that connection.
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#16  Postby Onyx8 » Sep 20, 2013 12:19 am

God made it with a dimmer switch that he never quite got right...
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#17  Postby orpheus » Sep 20, 2013 4:34 am

Ah, Ludvig van's piano sonata no. 27 in c-sharp minor. Interestingly enough, the nickname "Moonlight" did not originate with LvB. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it (and Wiki is is pretty accurate in this case): "

Wikipedia wrote:The name "Moonlight Sonata" has its origins in remarks by the German music critic and poet Ludwig Rellstab. In 1832, five years after Beethoven's death, Rellstab likened the effect of the first movement to that of moonlight shining upon Lake Lucerne.[4] Within ten years, the name "Moonlight Sonata" ("Mondscheinsonate" in German) was being used in German[5] and English[6] publications. Later in the nineteenth century, the sonata was universally known by that name.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._14_%28Beethoven%29


Beethoven did give it a subtitle, though: "Quasi una fantasia". The structure is rather unusual - it departs from strict sonata form; this may be one reason. Not sure if that has anything to do with our creationist's contention - except that that's a fantasy too (though of a different sort).

I wonder what he would make of "Canti Lunatici" (Moon Songs), by my composer friend Bernard Rands. The work consists of 30 minutes of continuous music for soprano and chamber ensemble; woven into the fabric of the music are settings of fifteen poems - in an assortment of languages - all having to do with the moon. I've conducted it several times, and love it dearly. But I doubt this character would like the music at all; it's far too subtle, complex and multifaceted - just as are poems about the moon. It's not all "beautiful songs" as the guy says. Some are beautiful, some are simple, some are intricate, others shadowy, ominous, and at least one setting is something of a surreal nightmare. (Oddly, in that particular one, Bernard throws in a quote from the Beethoven sonata.)

Whether or not any of this music - or facts about the music - would shake this clown's belief is doubtful.
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#18  Postby Scar » Sep 20, 2013 9:09 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:
Scar wrote:
laklak wrote:I'm beginning to believe the Ray Comfort is actually the world's greatest and longest running Poe. There is no possible way that anyone with enough brain cells to string together a coherent sentence can believe the stuff he comes up with. This is one of his best, it ranks up there with the Banana Proof of God's Existence.


I've long ago come to that conclusion. That man is no idiot. He's milking idiots and he's prepared to spout whatever bullshit to do so.


This indeed, Bananaman has a very very good business telling people what they want to hear and sometimes he needs to get out on the news sheets again so that people don't forget to buy his shit. The guy is a con artist who believes his own stupid shit.

I don't even think he believes it himself. Not anymore at least.
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#19  Postby willhud9 » Sep 22, 2013 5:01 pm

orpheus wrote:Ah, Ludvig van's piano sonata no. 27 in c-sharp minor. Interestingly enough, the nickname "Moonlight" did not originate with LvB. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it (and Wiki is is pretty accurate in this case): "

Wikipedia wrote:The name "Moonlight Sonata" has its origins in remarks by the German music critic and poet Ludwig Rellstab. In 1832, five years after Beethoven's death, Rellstab likened the effect of the first movement to that of moonlight shining upon Lake Lucerne.[4] Within ten years, the name "Moonlight Sonata" ("Mondscheinsonate" in German) was being used in German[5] and English[6] publications. Later in the nineteenth century, the sonata was universally known by that name.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._14_%28Beethoven%29


Beethoven did give it a subtitle, though: "Quasi una fantasia". The structure is rather unusual - it departs from strict sonata form; this may be one reason. Not sure if that has anything to do with our creationist's contention - except that that's a fantasy too (though of a different sort).

I wonder what he would make of "Canti Lunatici" (Moon Songs), by my composer friend Bernard Rands. The work consists of 30 minutes of continuous music for soprano and chamber ensemble; woven into the fabric of the music are settings of fifteen poems - in an assortment of languages - all having to do with the moon. I've conducted it several times, and love it dearly. But I doubt this character would like the music at all; it's far too subtle, complex and multifaceted - just as are poems about the moon. It's not all "beautiful songs" as the guy says. Some are beautiful, some are simple, some are intricate, others shadowy, ominous, and at least one setting is something of a surreal nightmare. (Oddly, in that particular one, Bernard throws in a quote from the Beethoven sonata.)

Whether or not any of this music - or facts about the music - would shake this clown's belief is doubtful.


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#20  Postby Alan B » Sep 22, 2013 6:37 pm

Ray Comfort and Beethoven? Perhaps he means Beethoven the dawg... :whistle:
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