Does God ---- Do unto others?

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Does God ---- Do unto others?

#1  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 23, 2012 8:54 pm

Does God ---- Do unto others?

There are many instances in scriptures where God does not follow the golden rule.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

In the sacrifice of Jesus, God demanded that Jesus bear the sins of the wicked who will repent.

This is hardly doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking): Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Hell can hardly be called a good thing. This again is hardly Jesus doing unto others or following the advice of scriptures.
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Does the God you know follow the golden rule?

How can he be doing so when a good God would find a good and moral way to convert instead the draconian methods he seems to use that go against the golden rule and his own good advice in his scriptures?

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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#2  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 23, 2012 10:01 pm

God is all about the murder, rape, and enslavement of children who have done nothing other than be born into another religion or culture.

That is how the Abrahamic God does "do unto others"? Raid your neighbor with cock and sword; spare no children. God is love.
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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#3  Postby orpheus » Jan 23, 2012 10:46 pm

The Boss doesn't have to follow the rules. And it is not for us to question him.
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#4  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 2:29 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:God is all about the murder, rape, and enslavement of children who have done nothing other than be born into another religion or culture.

That is how the Abrahamic God does "do unto others"? Raid your neighbor with cock and sword; spare no children. God is love.


You sure can turn a good phrase and see 20 20.

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#5  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 2:31 am

orpheus wrote:The Boss doesn't have to follow the rules. And it is not for us to question him.


Do as I say and not as I do.

Yep. A good policy for all law makers. Not.

The bible says we are to emulate God.
I guess we do not have to follow the rules we make either.

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#6  Postby JoeB » Jan 24, 2012 9:10 am

Greatest I am wrote:
The bible says we are to emulate God.

Doesn't the bible tell us to both 'fear' god and 'love' god? Basically we are to suck up to him out of fear for his wrath..

I always wondered how christians explained the fear part, they always tried to twist it into something positive.. (like here)
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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#7  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 24, 2012 9:50 am

Greatest I am wrote:
orpheus wrote:The Boss doesn't have to follow the rules. And it is not for us to question him.


Do as I say and not as I do.

Yep. A good policy for all law makers. Not.

The bible says we are to emulate God.
I guess we do not have to follow the rules we make either.

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How can you emulate a murderer and rapist?

Why emulate a fairy story anyway. That is plain stupid.
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#8  Postby zulumoose » Jan 24, 2012 12:01 pm

If he does unto others as we do unto him, it raises an interesting point.

Since atheists do not believe in him, he doesn't believe in them.

So there is no heaven or hell for atheists, they don't exist so cannot be sent anywhere.

So atheists are right, there is no afterlife, at least for those who don't believe in one.
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#9  Postby willhud9 » Jan 24, 2012 4:08 pm

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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#10  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 24, 2012 4:09 pm

As so many theist threads have gone before....................
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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#11  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 9:43 pm

JoeB wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
The bible says we are to emulate God.

Doesn't the bible tell us to both 'fear' god and 'love' god? Basically we are to suck up to him out of fear for his wrath..

I always wondered how christians explained the fear part, they always tried to twist it into something positive.. (like here)


I hear you.
They make up their own definitions.
Like the great flood being justice.
Hitler will be happy to hear that his genocide was justice.

The deluded will swallow anything.

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#12  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 9:44 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
orpheus wrote:The Boss doesn't have to follow the rules. And it is not for us to question him.


Do as I say and not as I do.

Yep. A good policy for all law makers. Not.

The bible says we are to emulate God.
I guess we do not have to follow the rules we make either.

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How can you emulate a murderer and rapist?

Why emulate a fairy story anyway. That is plain stupid.


I agree.

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#13  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 9:47 pm

zulumoose wrote:If he does unto others as we do unto him, it raises an interesting point.

Since atheists do not believe in him, he doesn't believe in them.

So there is no heaven or hell for atheists, they don't exist so cannot be sent anywhere.

So atheists are right, there is no afterlife, at least for those who don't believe in one.


What a game for your God to play!
Create a place for eternal bliss as well as a place for eternal death.
Then create beings whom he loves dearly and watches over.
And in the end, decide which to consider "trash" and "throw away" into the place for eternal death and which to cling to and love in the place for eternal bliss.
Even man, with all his faults, is greater and more responsible.

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#14  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 24, 2012 9:48 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:As so many theist threads have gone before....................


The good minds here have chased them all away it seems.

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#15  Postby willhud9 » Jan 26, 2012 9:15 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:As so many theist threads have gone before....................


The good minds here have chased them all away it seems.

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You are aware there are hardly any theists on this forum period, right? I am probably the closest your going to get to a religious debate and I'm still an atheist. I don't know about Zward though :think:
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#16  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 27, 2012 12:33 am

If there are none then this will be a boring section.

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#17  Postby willhud9 » Jan 27, 2012 12:44 am

Greatest I am wrote:If there are none then this will be a boring section.

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Yeah, this part of this site is usually to discuss Christians with a heavy slant towards atheism since most people here are atheists.
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Re: Does God ---- Do unto others?

#18  Postby Greatest I am » Jan 27, 2012 12:56 pm

A wise choice if you see no evidence of a God.

I do in the sense of I D but I do not give creation to God. I give it to nature.

I am not an atheist though. My apotheosis killed the atheist in me. No proof to show though.
That is why I concentrate on morals.
They can be shown where discussions of God lead nowhere.
Atheists end with a better set of these than dogmatic believers.

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