Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#62  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jun 11, 2013 8:26 pm

Greatest I am wrote:LOL.

Will this do?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enlightenment

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Which of the 3?
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#63  Postby Matt8819 » Jun 12, 2013 6:22 am


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willhud9 wrote:Blackbart you cannot understand GIA's position. He is a gnostic who has claimed he has undergone apotheosis and therefore possess divine knowledge and is in fact, a god himself.


Thanks for your distortion of the truth.


Not a distortion of the truth. You said it yourself in other threads. :coffee:

You know that I do not define the word God in the usual way. The same applies to the word god.


And did I define god differently? No.

"Define barbaric"

If I have to my friend then we do not speak the same language and dialog is pointless.

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:roll: In other words you cannot define what you are saying. You use a word and then cannot back it up. Gotcha. Quelle Surprise GIA.


Thanks for doing your usual and not accepting Webster and his definitions and blaming me for not re-writing the English language.

Show any quote where I even elude to any divine knowledge or be seen as the liar you are.

I have never said that I have access to divine power or knowledge.
How could I when, as clearly stated above when speaking of my apotheosis, I do not recognize any divinity as there is nothing greater than man.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#64  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 12, 2013 2:43 pm

Thanks for that.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#65  Postby willhud9 » Jun 12, 2013 3:43 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
willhud9 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:who has claimed he has undergone apotheosis and therefore possess divine knowledge and is in fact, a god himself.

Go away.

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There you go again. Bullshitting a definition. Apotheosis HAS a definition. If you wish to call it something else do so, because all you are doing by calling it apotheosis is spreading confusion. Even the fucking word apotheosis MEANS to make divine. ἀποθεοῦν is the verb. The noun is derived from that.


Get the quote where I, according to you, say that I possess divine knowledge, or be seen as the liar you are.

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I did not say you claimed that. I said you claimed to have undergone apotheosis. Multiple times. Apotheosis has it's own definition. This is case number two where you have weedled out of a straight reply. :roll:
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#66  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 13, 2013 12:41 pm

More lies. "Multiple times."

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#67  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jun 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:LOL.

Will this do?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enlightenment

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Which of the 3?

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"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#68  Postby willhud9 » Jun 13, 2013 3:27 pm

Greatest I am wrote:More lies. "Multiple times."

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...you just claimed you experienced apotheosis in this very thread. :doh:
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#69  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 13, 2013 4:25 pm

willhud9 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:More lies. "Multiple times."

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...you just claimed you experienced apotheosis in this very thread. :doh:


Indeed. Not multiple times.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#70  Postby willhud9 » Jun 13, 2013 4:47 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
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Greatest I am wrote:More lies. "Multiple times."

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...you just claimed you experienced apotheosis in this very thread. :doh:


Indeed. Not multiple times.

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and you've also said it in earlier threads. Or have you forgotten that you have made other threads. :nono:
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#71  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 13, 2013 4:56 pm

Done here.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#72  Postby BlackBart » Jun 13, 2013 10:22 pm

Until your next spam thread.
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#73  Postby james1v » Jun 14, 2013 1:19 am

Is it? Not really, i really am worth it.

People dont get less egotistical than me. The only people who are more egotistical, usually come with a title, like...Priest, Imam, Pastor, Guru....Etc.

Now the-ms egotists! Who, not coincidentally, make money out of pretending not to be! Yes! They do care for you...So long as you pander to their ego...And, give them money! That helps their ego, why wouldn't it?

Its a business, with promotions, wage rises, bigger pensions, bigger retirement homes, the further up you claw your way. They, religions, are nothing more than corporations, vying for a monopoly.

Willing to lie about, demonise or kill anyone in their way. Including each other. Clerical history, the most perverted, violent history over time, humanity has had to contend with.

Why do we put up with them?

Yup, that's right! They promise milk and honey, virgins galore (when we die) for everyone , who pays them today! They fooking know no ones going to come back and complain under the goods descriptions act.

This has to be the most amateur con-trick...Ever. Yet people, still fall for it...Why?


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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#74  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 14, 2013 12:01 pm

It feels good. Unfortunately. It is their crutch in a world that most think they cannot effect.
The likely root of religion is our tribal instincts.
People need fellowship so much that they do not mind putting their intelligence aside.
Insecurity is a big player as well.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#75  Postby BlackBart » Jun 14, 2013 3:13 pm

So Sky Fairy fan clubs are a bad thing. Ok... In that case it might be a good idea to suggest to people who make unsupported claims that they communicate with these things to keep their claims to themselves. :coffee:
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#76  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 14, 2013 3:36 pm

BlackBart wrote:So Sky Fairy fan clubs are a bad thing. Ok... In that case it might be a good idea to suggest to people who make unsupported claims that they communicate with these things to keep their claims to themselves. :coffee:


Why do you fear such claims?

I see them as an opportunity, not for belief, but for thought that are out of the usual box and sometimes even interesting.

Sure, none of us like it when unsupported statements are pushed hard at us but I see nothing wrong with the information as an anecdotal rendering which is what I call whatever I say that has no support.

Take it or leave it. To fight it like a fool is, foolish.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#77  Postby BlackBart » Jun 14, 2013 4:17 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
BlackBart wrote:So Sky Fairy fan clubs are a bad thing. Ok... In that case it might be a good idea to suggest to people who make unsupported claims that they communicate with these things to keep their claims to themselves. :coffee:


Why do you fear such claims?



I don't. They disgust me.They disgust me because people use these baseless assertions to support their empty assertions - hence the Sky Fairy fan clubs used to fleece people of their freedom and money.


I see them as an opportunity, not for belief, but for thought that are out of the usual box and sometimes even interesting.


Without actual evidence, they're merely assertion. And thoughts based on assertion are worthless.


Sure, none of us like it when unsupported statements are pushed hard at us but I see nothing wrong with the information as an anecdotal rendering which is what I call whatever I say that has no support.


You want oil on that word salad?


Take it or leave it. To fight it like a fool is, foolish.


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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#78  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 14, 2013 4:35 pm

Thanks for your assertion based thoughts.

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#79  Postby BlackBart » Jun 14, 2013 5:03 pm

Greatest I am wrote:Thanks for your assertion based thoughts.

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Except my assertions are supported. Religions based on deities for which there is no evidence can and do limit people freedoms.

And perhaps you'd like to enlighten us how we differentiate unsupported anecdotes from worthless lies or delusions?
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

#80  Postby Greatest I am » Jun 14, 2013 5:19 pm

BlackBart wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Thanks for your assertion based thoughts.

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Except my assertions are supported. Religions based on deities for which there is no evidence can and do limit people freedoms.

And perhaps you'd like to enlighten us how we differentiate unsupported anecdotes from worthless lies or delusions?


I can only give an anecdotal answer.

Most unsupported anecdotes do not tell you that if you do not believe them you will go to hell.
The worthless lies and delusions will do something close to that.

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