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Dark energy wrote:it is part of Gods plan,might be he has something in store for them as for hell,it is satan that is dragging them to it,.
The Western tradition of a Hell of everlasting punishment for the lawless/wicked can be seen in tens of thousands of Protestant denominations stemming from primarily Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism borrowed its myths of Hell from the Romans, Greeks and Jews who, in turn, borrowed them from the ancient Egyptians and Babylonians. So if a hell of everlasting punishment is a myth invented by power hungry men trying to control the masses, how did the idea ever get into the Bible? It is commonly taught and regirgutated by "the masses," that Jesus spoke more about Hell than He did about Heaven. Is this true? Or is this another one of those fabulous fables perpetrated upon the ignorant masses to keep them ignorant. A study of this man-made invention requires hundreds of pages. Below is a short article by Sam G. Dawson centering on the English word Hell and the Hebrew and Greek words behind it in our traditional Bible translations. (Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, Tartarus) Perhaps this is the time in your life to "Study to show yourself approved." (2 Tim. 2:15) Gary Amirault
,because if i was an atheist-happy i am not-,i would try to be the happiest person i could because i know when my time in the world is up,i am lost for ever and forever, and not sure what to expect after that,.so,who has time for depression and other stuff..
Keep It Real wrote:Atheism is freedom from hell...and as for heaven, how could you possibly enjoy it knowing that people like me are burning in hell? You'd have to be a psychopath to enjoy heaven if there is a hell.
LucidFlight wrote:No well I will tell you if I was an atheist I would try not to be depressed because I would have everything to live for and only one life and not forever and ever amen like the Christian who must be proud to live forever knowing that they will go to Heaven as long as they believe in Jesus who goes to the toilet just like everybody else.
Dark energy wrote:Keep It Real wrote:Atheism is freedom from hell...and as for heaven, how could you possibly enjoy it knowing that people like me are burning in hell? You'd have to be a psychopath to enjoy heaven if there is a hell.
I would never want you or anyone else to even go near that place but this life is a test it is up to the individual to be humble and accept or arrogant and reject god,
a tangible proof -scientific proof-or an equation like V=IR Which relate voltage,current and resistance for ohmic conductors does not exist for God and probably will not.logical proofs are possible but it aint my cup of tea,atheists can not prove that a creator doesnt exist.
there are many stuff in the math that are true but can not be proven.
No it isn't.
That doesn't mean that God exists.
Dark energy wrote:
i already gave up proving god or its existance because at the end of the day,it is up to the individual to believe what the heck they like.i cant convince a blind person the existance of light.
monkeyboy wrote:Dark energy wrote:it is part of Gods plan,might be he has something in store for them as for hell,it is satan that is dragging them to it,.
See, not even that bit makes sense.
Why would Satan, a fallen angel, cast out from heaven do God's work? He's supposedly the master of evil etc and rules over hell, torturing the sinful for eternity but have you stopped to consider if that makes any sense? Surely hell ought to be like party central for the wicked. If it truly is satan orchestrating all the bad shit and recruiting people to his dastardly ways, why would he torture them in a lake of fire for doing his will? They'd be his guys, the more twisted the better. It doesn't make sense for him to torture people who did what he wanted.
But, let's say that he is there, just as Alighieri described, punishing the evil. Doesn't that make satan an agent for god? Wouldn't satan be doing gods work by punishing the wicked? Is satan God's Luca Brasi? Is that it? God can't smite any more because of rainbows but he uses Satan to do his wet work?
Dark energy wrote:
i already gave up proving god or its existance because at the end of the day,it is up to the individual to believe what the heck they like.
Dark energy wrote:No it isn't.
then why most of the people go through health problems,financial woes,etc,we didnt choose to be in this planet,our stay is temporary,we dont have a choice to select a fixed amount of time to stay here,say 80 years.to me,it is test.
That doesn't mean that God exists.
i already gave up proving god or its existance because at the end of the day,it is up to the individual to believe what the heck they like.i cant convince a blind person the existance of light.
Dark energy wrote:
i already gave up proving god or its existance because at the end of the day,it is up to the individual to believe what the heck they like.
People don't just believe what they like; they believe what they perceive as being the truth. If I caught my spouse in bed with another man I'd like to believe they were just really tired but my common sense would prevent me from believing that. I'd like to believe in heaven but don't because there's no evidence for it and it's obviously just wishful thinking. I'd like to believe in unicorns etc.etc.etc
I know the feeling, it can be difficult to see people blinded by their beliefs and desire to believe absurd things despite all evidence to the contrary. But as long as they aren't harming anyone, best just leave them be, yes?
Dark energy wrote:No it isn't.
then why most of the people go through health problems,financial woes,etc,we didnt choose to be in this planet,our stay is temporary,we dont have a choice to select a fixed amount of time to stay here,say 80 years.to me,it is test.
That doesn't mean that God exists.
i already gave up proving god or its existance because at the end of the day,it is up to the individual to believe what the heck they like.i cant convince a blind person the existance of light.
Dark energy wrote:
no,i am not glad,in fact when ever i remember hell i ask allah protection from that awful place.
my theory is that it is not eternal.
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