Jesus' House? 1st-Century Structure May Be Where He Grew Up

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Jesus' House? 1st-Century Structure May Be Where He Grew Up

#1  Postby DoctorE » Mar 03, 2015 1:59 pm

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Archaeologists working in Nazareth — Jesus' hometown — in modern-day Israel have identified a house dating to the first century that was regarded as the place where Jesus was brought up by Mary and Joseph.

The house is partly made of mortar-and-stone walls, and was cut into a rocky hillside. It was first uncovered in the 1880s, by nuns at the Sisters of Nazareth convent, but it wasn't until 2006 that archaeologists led by Ken Dark, a professor at the University of Reading in the United Kingdom, dated the house to the first century, and identified it as the place where people, who lived centuries after Jesus' time, believed Jesus was brought up.

Whether Jesus actually lived in the house in real life is unknown, but Dark says that it is possible. [See Images of the 'Jesus' House and Nazareth Artifacts]

"Was this the house where Jesus grew up? It is impossible to say on archaeological grounds," Dark wrote in an article published in the magazine Biblical Archaeology Review. "On the other hand, there is no good archaeological reason why such an identification should be discounted."

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#2  Postby chairman bill » Mar 03, 2015 2:20 pm

But did those feet, in ancient times etc, come to Glastonbury? Well, there's no good archaelogical reason to discount it. So it must be true.
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#3  Postby Briton » Mar 03, 2015 2:26 pm

DoctorE wrote:
Whether Jesus actually lived in the house in real life is unknown, but Dark says that it is possible.


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#4  Postby Paul » Mar 03, 2015 2:28 pm

Wonder if they'll find a receipt for a burial shroud.
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#5  Postby Blackadder » Mar 03, 2015 2:30 pm

"Was this the house where Jesus grew up? It is impossible to say on archaeological grounds," Dark wrote in an article published in the magazine Biblical Archaeology Review. "On the other hand, there is no good archaeological reason why such an identification should be discounted."


It would have been more honest and more succinct to have simply said:

"I have absolutely no fucking idea, and neither does anyone else."
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#6  Postby Bubalus » Mar 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Christian archaeologist finds "evidence" for his fantasy - colour me surpised!
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#7  Postby Animavore » Mar 03, 2015 3:35 pm

Blackadder wrote:
"Was this the house where Jesus grew up? It is impossible to say on archaeological grounds," Dark wrote in an article published in the magazine Biblical Archaeology Review. "On the other hand, there is no good archaeological reason why such an identification should be discounted."


It would have been more honest and more succinct to have simply said:

"I have absolutely no fucking idea, and neither does anyone else."


Fuck me, that's literally the same reasoning as Ancient Aliens.
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#8  Postby willhud9 » Mar 05, 2015 4:41 pm

Sure Jesus could have lived in this house, or it could have been thousands of other Palestinian Jews whom also lived in the area.

The odds of it being Jesus' house is what? .0001%?
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#9  Postby Free » Mar 06, 2015 3:40 am

Massive assumption. Appears to be an attempt at sensationalism. From a strictly historical perspective, although Jesus may have come from Nazareth, there is no evidence he existed there as a child. There is nothing known about Jesus before he began his purported ministry.

But I cannot find much info on this archaeologist in an effort to determine if he has some kind of Christian bias.
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#10  Postby SkyMutt » Mar 06, 2015 4:54 am

Free wrote:. . . I cannot find much info on this archaeologist in an effort to determine if he has some kind of Christian bias.


René Salm, a strong supporter of the mythicist position, is very critical of Dark's work, as you might expect (Dark in turn is very critical of Salm's). So, while you may get some information about Dark from Salm, I wouldn't say that he's an unbiased source. From what I've been able to find, Salm's position that Nazareth did not exist as such until much later than the time of Jesus is not widely held. It doesn't help that Salm is apparently without academic qualification in the field of archaeology. With that in mind, and for whatever it may be worth: "A Critique of Dr. Ken Dark’s writings relative to the Sisters of Nazareth convent site" by René Salm
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#11  Postby redwhine » Mar 06, 2015 8:21 am

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#12  Postby Arcanyn » Mar 06, 2015 9:23 am

willhud9 wrote:Sure Jesus could have lived in this house, or it could have been thousands of other Palestinian Jews whom also lived in the area.

The odds of it being Jesus' house is what? .0001%?


I guess "archaeologists may have found the house that belonged to the local baker in the first century" probably makes for a less exciting headline.
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#13  Postby Blackadder » Mar 06, 2015 12:01 pm

This could be straight from Life of Brian.

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Fuckwit B: "Is it old?"
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#14  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 06, 2015 1:03 pm

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#15  Postby Onyx8 » Mar 06, 2015 3:42 pm

If they look closer they might find threads, in which case it will doubtless be where the cloth of the Turin shroud was woven. Maybe that's what Jesus was doing for the first thirty years.
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#16  Postby willhud9 » Mar 06, 2015 4:05 pm

But then he was a weaver and not a carpenter! Bible was wrong. 10/10 Fact sourcing their Onyx8!
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#17  Postby Clive Durdle » Mar 06, 2015 4:15 pm

It is utterly true. It was Jesus's home. The tomb was for Jesus and the fact it was disused is proof of Jesus's resurrection.
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#18  Postby Clive Durdle » Mar 06, 2015 4:42 pm

Dark's expertise is actually Roman Britain! I recommend he looks for Jesus in Glastonbury!
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#19  Postby Clive Durdle » Mar 06, 2015 4:46 pm

Except it wasn't Roman when those feet...

Roman Britain (Latin: Britannia or, later, Britanniae, "the Britains") refers generally to the period of Roman rule over areas on the island of Great Britain from ad 43 to 409 or 410.[1]:129–131[2]

Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 55 and 54 bc as part of his Gallic Wars.[3][4] The Britons had been overrun or culturally assimilated by the Celtic tribes during the British Iron Age and had been providing aid to Caesar's enemies. He received tribute, installed a friendly king over the Trinovantes, and returned to Gaul. Planned invasions under Augustus were called off in 34, 27, and 25 bc. In ad 40, Caligula assembled 200,000 men at the Channel only to have them gather seashells. Three years later, Claudius directed four legions to invade Britain and restore an exiled king over the Atrebates.[5] The Romans defeated the Catuvellauni but then organized their conquests as the Province of Britain (Latin: Provincia Britannia). By the year 47, the Romans held the lands southeast of the Fosse Way.


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#20  Postby Onyx8 » Mar 06, 2015 5:16 pm

willhud9 wrote:But then he was a weaver and not a carpenter! Bible was wrong. 10/10 Fact sourcing their Onyx8!



:lol: Iirc, the bible doesn't mention Jesus' profession, isn't it just assumed that because his 'dad' was a carpenter that then he would be too, if he hadn't fallen in with the bad crowd and got himself banged up?
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