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Re: Jesus killed children

#21  Postby rainbow » Jan 04, 2012 2:24 pm

Arcanyn wrote:Jesus said that to follow him, we must become like children. But Jesus killed children. From the Infancy Gospel of Thomas:

Once again he was going through the village, and a child who was running banged into his shoulder. Jesus was angered and said to him, "You shall go no further on your way.". And immediately the child fell down dead.


There are many similar instances where the young Jesus impulsively kills those who irritate him.

Jesus thought being the son of the creator god meant he had the right to kill children randomly. If you annoy him, he will kill you.


It is possible that this story may, in fact, not be true.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#22  Postby John P. M. » Jan 04, 2012 2:34 pm

Well, he does come across as a bit of a hothead in some of the passages of the canonical gospels, and he is after all, according to mainstream Christian theology, the same guy who killed people on the spot in the OT for minor infringements (and sometimes for other people's minor infringements).

But yes - it ain't necessarily so. ;)
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Re: Jesus killed children

#23  Postby proudfootz » Jan 04, 2012 2:41 pm

chairman bill wrote:Did Jesus eat the child? No. But evil atheists would have done. Therefore God.


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Re: Jesus killed children

#24  Postby proudfootz » Jan 04, 2012 2:42 pm

John P. M. wrote:Well, he does come across as a bit of a hothead in some of the passages of the canonical gospels, and he is after all, according to mainstream Christian theology, the same guy who killed people on the spot in the OT for minor infringements (and sometimes for other people's minor infringements).

But yes - it ain't necessarily so. ;)


When will we see Jesus or his Dad in an anger management class?
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Re: Jesus killed children

#25  Postby trubble76 » Jan 04, 2012 3:39 pm

rainbow wrote:
Arcanyn wrote:Jesus said that to follow him, we must become like children. But Jesus killed children. From the Infancy Gospel of Thomas:

Once again he was going through the village, and a child who was running banged into his shoulder. Jesus was angered and said to him, "You shall go no further on your way.". And immediately the child fell down dead.


There are many similar instances where the young Jesus impulsively kills those who irritate him.

Jesus thought being the son of the creator god meant he had the right to kill children randomly. If you annoy him, he will kill you.


It is possible that this story may, in fact, not be true.


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Re: Jesus killed children

#26  Postby DodgyScouser » Jan 04, 2012 4:10 pm

Animavore wrote:He also killed fig trees :o


That story of the fig trees always bothered me, even when I was a believer. Jesus just seemed to be acting like a petulant little shit, and none of the waffly answers given by anyone at my church could gloss over the fact that he was acting like a petulant little shit.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#27  Postby nunnington » Jan 04, 2012 4:28 pm

DodgyScouser wrote:
Animavore wrote:He also killed fig trees :o


That story of the fig trees always bothered me, even when I was a believer. Jesus just seemed to be acting like a petulant little shit, and none of the waffly answers given by anyone at my church could gloss over the fact that he was acting like a petulant little shit.


Did no-one mention that the fig-tree could be a symbol for Israel, seen as barren and faithless, and not yielding fruit?
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Re: Jesus killed children

#28  Postby Ironclad » Jan 04, 2012 4:32 pm

paarsurrey wrote:
Arcanyn wrote:Jesus said that to follow him, we must become like children. But Jesus killed children. From the Infancy Gospel of Thomas:

Once again he was going through the village, and a child who was running banged into his shoulder. Jesus was angered and said to him, "You shall go no further on your way.". And immediately the child fell down dead.


There are many similar instances where the young Jesus impulsively kills those who irritate him.

Jesus thought being the son of the creator god meant he had the right to kill children randomly. If you annoy him, he will kill you.


Jesus killed no-body; it is the scribes writing a fiction


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Re: Jesus killed children

#29  Postby trubble76 » Jan 04, 2012 5:12 pm

nunnington wrote:
DodgyScouser wrote:
Animavore wrote:He also killed fig trees :o


That story of the fig trees always bothered me, even when I was a believer. Jesus just seemed to be acting like a petulant little shit, and none of the waffly answers given by anyone at my church could gloss over the fact that he was acting like a petulant little shit.


Did no-one mention that the fig-tree could be a symbol for Israel, seen as barren and faithless, and not yielding fruit?


True, but it could also be a symbol for something else. It was brown and sticky, wasn't it?

Either way, it not a very divine example to set.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#30  Postby blindfaith » Jan 04, 2012 5:39 pm

of course its true paarsurrey it says so in the book, and the book is right, cos it says so in the book.......etc

care to prove me wrong?
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Re: Jesus killed children

#31  Postby Onyx8 » Jan 04, 2012 7:01 pm

Any farmer raising pigs is beneath concern anyway.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#32  Postby proudfootz » Jan 04, 2012 10:19 pm

nunnington wrote:
DodgyScouser wrote:
Animavore wrote:He also killed fig trees :o


That story of the fig trees always bothered me, even when I was a believer. Jesus just seemed to be acting like a petulant little shit, and none of the waffly answers given by anyone at my church could gloss over the fact that he was acting like a petulant little shit.


Did no-one mention that the fig-tree could be a symbol for Israel, seen as barren and faithless, and not yielding fruit?


Since the fig was 'out of season' only an ignoramus would expect to find fruit.

Didn't Jesus help his Dad create these trees? He should have known better!
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Re: Jesus killed children

#33  Postby willhud9 » Jan 04, 2012 11:04 pm

Oh the Gospel of Thomas. Gnostic literature :yuk:
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Re: Jesus killed children

#34  Postby Animavore » Jan 04, 2012 11:07 pm

I prefer gnostic literature. Far more inventive and interesting :snooty:

But no. Those other assholes had to take over and ban/kill them :(
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Re: Jesus killed children

#35  Postby rainbow » Jan 05, 2012 7:03 am

trubble76 wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Arcanyn wrote:Jesus said that to follow him, we must become like children. But Jesus killed children. From the Infancy Gospel of Thomas:

Once again he was going through the village, and a child who was running banged into his shoulder. Jesus was angered and said to him, "You shall go no further on your way.". And immediately the child fell down dead.


There are many similar instances where the young Jesus impulsively kills those who irritate him.

Jesus thought being the son of the creator god meant he had the right to kill children randomly. If you annoy him, he will kill you.


It is possible that this story may, in fact, not be true.


You don't say.

Yes, I do.

It might actually be completely made up.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#36  Postby devogue » Jan 05, 2012 8:48 am

Oh for fuck's sake. Now I'm going to hell for eating fig rolls.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#37  Postby rainbow » Jan 05, 2012 8:59 am

devogue wrote:Oh for fuck's sake. Now I'm going to hell for eating fig rolls.

Possibly, although the Theological argument for that might be somewhat weak.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#38  Postby Onyx8 » Jan 05, 2012 10:04 am

All theological arguments are weak. If they were strong arguments they would be called something else.

Please show me a strong theological argument for anything at all.

ps. You don't have to capitalise the word 'theological'.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#39  Postby rainbow » Jan 05, 2012 10:24 am

Onyx8 wrote:All theological arguments are weak. If they were strong arguments they would be called something else.

Please show me a strong theological argument for anything at all.


Why in the name of all that is holy, would I want to do that?

ps. You don't have to capitalise the word 'theological'.

You don't have to tell me what I should Capitalise.
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Re: Jesus killed children

#40  Postby GakuseiDon » Jan 05, 2012 11:51 am

proudfootz wrote:
nunnington wrote:
DodgyScouser wrote:
Animavore wrote:He also killed fig trees :o


That story of the fig trees always bothered me, even when I was a believer. Jesus just seemed to be acting like a petulant little shit, and none of the waffly answers given by anyone at my church could gloss over the fact that he was acting like a petulant little shit.


Did no-one mention that the fig-tree could be a symbol for Israel, seen as barren and faithless, and not yielding fruit?


Since the fig was 'out of season' only an ignoramus would expect to find fruit.

Didn't Jesus help his Dad create these trees? He should have known better!

Why didn't the original author know any better, in your opinion? Why have the story of Jesus cursing a fig tree for no fruit and also state that it wasn't the season for fruit?
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