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Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#1  Postby Shrunk » Oct 23, 2013 3:21 pm

Wendy Wright and Chelsen Vicari co-hosted Sandy Rios In The Morning this week, and used the opportunity to attack The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart for discriminating against Christians.... Wright said she couldn’t understand why Stewart thinks “we are in charge and we are the oppressors,” referring to the Crusades as an instance in which Christians faced persecution. “I guess he never heard of the Crusades; the Crusades were actually defensive against the Muslim hordes,” she said.

Vicari was upset because she imagined that while Stewart and President Obama lauded Yousafzai, they wouldn’t have done so if she was shot while defending the rights of Christians.

I couldn’t, I just couldn’t see why there was such a disconnect between the way Jon Stewart was treating Malala for something very admirable, a girl’s right to an education, but he couldn’t stand up for the right to believe in Jesus Christ,” she said. I had this thought, Wendy, I thought, you know if Malala Yousafzai was a Christian standing up for girls’ rights to believe in Jesus Christ, would we still know her name? Would she receive all this praise that she’s getting from the international community? From our national leaders? The president just invited her to the White House on Friday. Would Jon Stewart have had her on his show? The answer is probably not and I have to ask the question, why that is?


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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#2  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Oct 23, 2013 3:23 pm

But she isn't a Muslim standing up for a girls right to believe in Allah, she is a girl standing up for girls rights to be educated. This is just a whole pile of fail, just...fail.
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#3  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 23, 2013 3:24 pm

:facepalm:

Why do they have to make everything about Christians?
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#4  Postby SafeAsMilk » Oct 23, 2013 3:26 pm

All rights are the same, you see. Standing up for people believing in kooky, useless shit is totally the same as standing up for people being educated.
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#5  Postby theropod » Oct 23, 2013 3:30 pm

SaM,

True.

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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#6  Postby proudfootz » Oct 23, 2013 3:44 pm

Apparently some reactionaries are going after the real tragedy here: education for women:

The cost of educating women

Not only have the proposed benefits manifestly failed to manifest themselves, but the opportunity cost of future generations has begun to become readily apparent everywhere from Europe to Asia. One wonders how low birth rates have to fall in civilized countries before the elites begin to realize that the Taliban may not, in fact, be the stupid ones with regards to this particular matter.

...

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/10/the- ... women.html


Apparently the author has redacted the anti-education screed, as this is a quote from an earlier iteration of it:

"[I]n light of the strong correlation between female education and demographic decline, a purely empirical perspective on Malala Yousafzai, the poster girl for global female education, may indicate that the Taliban’s attempt to silence her was perfectly rational and scientifically justifiable."

http://manboobz.com/2013/10/23/vox-day- ... stifiable/


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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#7  Postby Shrunk » Oct 23, 2013 3:45 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:All rights are the same, you see. Standing up for people believing in kooky, useless shit is totally the same as standing up for people being educated.


Actually, I think they are largely the same. The pertinent difference, rather, is between an actual girl who actually got shot in her head for defending her rights, and an imaginary girl who didn't get shot (because she's imaginary), but if she did exist did get shot. And Jon Stewart is biased against Christians because he didn't interview that girl. Who can't be interviewed, of course, because she's imaginary. But if she wasn't imaginary....
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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#8  Postby Shrunk » Oct 23, 2013 3:47 pm

Anyway, I thought the biggest piece of fail here was the citation of the Crusades as an example of Christians being persecuted. :rofl:
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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#9  Postby Panderos » Oct 23, 2013 3:50 pm

The interview referred to here was the first timeI'd seen Malala speak and I have to say I was pretty impressed. I was imagining a shy girl thrust into the limelight for being shot, who we all want to hold up as a hero, but who would actually have not a lot to say, being only a teenager. How wrong I was. It's all well and good for distant liberal intellectuals saying things like 'if we respond to the terrorists with violence we are just as bad as they are', whilst being safe in their ivory towers, but she was saying this, not just having lived under the taliban but having actually been shot the fucking head by one, and who will be again if they get the chance. Balls of motherfucking steel right there.
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#10  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Oct 23, 2013 3:51 pm

Well when you rewrite reality so that evolution never happened and the Earth was flooded all over rewriting the history of your religions violent wars against another religion over holy land is easy peasy.
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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#11  Postby SafeAsMilk » Oct 23, 2013 4:02 pm

Shrunk wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:All rights are the same, you see. Standing up for people believing in kooky, useless shit is totally the same as standing up for people being educated.


Actually, I think they are largely the same. The pertinent difference, rather, is between an actual girl who actually got shot in her head for defending her rights, and an imaginary girl who didn't get shot (because she's imaginary), but if she did exist did get shot. And Jon Stewart is biased against Christians because he didn't interview that girl. Who can't be interviewed, of course, because she's imaginary. But if she wasn't imaginary....

...I don't think he'd be promoting her. He wouldn't have to, the religious would have a field day with it. Sauce for the goose though, I don't see the religious promoting this girl and her message. I guess that means they're biased against educating women? :mrgreen:

I know what you're saying, but I really do think there's a difference in levels of rights. A person's right to their religion shouldn't go as far as their right to more important things, like education or freedom of speech, for example. Or maybe I should say, some rights trump other rights.
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#12  Postby SafeAsMilk » Oct 23, 2013 4:04 pm

Panderos wrote:The interview referred to here was the first timeI'd seen Malala speak and I have to say I was pretty impressed. I was imagining a shy girl thrust into the limelight for being shot, who we all want to hold up as a hero, but who would actually have not a lot to say, being only a teenager. How wrong I was. It's all well and good for distant liberal intellectuals saying things like 'if we respond to the terrorists with violence we are just as bad as they are', whilst being safe in their ivory towers, but she was saying this, not just having lived under the taliban but having actually been shot the fucking head by one, and who will be again if they get the chance. Balls of motherfucking steel right there.

I think if you're willing to stand up for girl's education in a country like Malala's, you have to be pretty brave and outspoken, I think. And, you have to have considered the possibility that the Taliban is going to shoot you in the fucking head for it, and decided to stand up anyway. Brave girl, through and through.
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#13  Postby Thommo » Oct 23, 2013 4:05 pm

I think they've got a point. I mean, as a Jew, he's almost certain to discriminate against Christians in favour of Muslims right?
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#14  Postby proudfootz » Oct 23, 2013 4:11 pm

Thommo wrote:I think they've got a point. I mean, as a Jew, he's almost certain to discriminate against Christians in favour of Muslims right?


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#15  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Oct 23, 2013 4:11 pm

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Well when you rewrite reality so that evolution never happened and the Earth was flooded all over rewriting the history of your religions violent wars against another religion over holy land is easy peasy.

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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#16  Postby Shrunk » Oct 23, 2013 4:30 pm

Thommo wrote:I think they've got a point. I mean, as a Jew, he's almost certain to discriminate against Christians in favour of Muslims right?


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#17  Postby Panderos » Oct 23, 2013 4:30 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:I think if you're willing to stand up for girl's education in a country like Malala's, you have to be pretty brave and outspoken, I think. And, you have to have considered the possibility that the Taliban is going to shoot you in the fucking head for it, and decided to stand up anyway. Brave girl, through and through.

Yes, this is all true, I just hadn't really thought about it like that until that interview. Being a teenage girl who survives a bullet to the head from the taliban is enough for the media to deify someone and cynically I assumed that's all that had really happened. I wasn't really aware of what it was like where she was living or how outspoken she had been / is.
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#18  Postby Shrunk » Oct 23, 2013 4:33 pm

Panderos wrote: Yes, this is all true, I just hadn't really thought about it like that until that interview. Being a teenage girl who survives a bullet to the head from the taliban is enough for the media to deify someone and cynically I assumed that's all that had really happened. I wasn't really aware of what it was like where she was living or how outspoken she had been / is.


I believe it is because she was so articulate and outspoken that she became a target.
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#19  Postby stijndeloose » Oct 23, 2013 4:51 pm

Shrunk wrote:Anyway, I thought the biggest piece of fail here was the citation of the Crusades as an example of Christians being persecuted. :rofl:


Similarly, the inquisition was just Christians defending themselves against vicious attacks from protestants, atheists, scientists, witches, werewolves and women.
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Re: Jon Stewart criticized for interviewing Malala Yousafzai

#20  Postby Panderos » Oct 23, 2013 5:26 pm

Shrunk wrote:
Panderos wrote: Yes, this is all true, I just hadn't really thought about it like that until that interview. Being a teenage girl who survives a bullet to the head from the taliban is enough for the media to deify someone and cynically I assumed that's all that had really happened. I wasn't really aware of what it was like where she was living or how outspoken she had been / is.

I believe it is because she was so articulate and outspoken that she became a target.

Indeed, I don't doubt it now I've heard her speak.
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