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Pagan Christians

#1  Postby chairman bill » Jun 21, 2013 1:44 pm

How fucking desperate are the CofE?

Church of England creating 'pagan church' to recruit members
The Church of England is trying to recruit pagans and spiritual believers as part of a drive to retain congregation numbers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10133906/Church-of-England-creating-pagan-church-to-recruit-members.html?fb

The church is training ministers to create “a pagan church where Christianity [is] very much in the centre” to attract spiritual believers.
Ministers are being trained to create new forms of Anglicanism suitable for people of alternative beliefs as part of a Church of England drive to retain congregation numbers.
Reverend Steve Hollinghurst, a researcher and adviser in new religious movements told the BBC: “I would be looking to formulate an exploration of the Christian faith that would be at home in their culture.”
He said it would be “almost to create a pagan church where Christianity was very much in the centre.”
The Church Mission Society, which is training ministers to “break new ground”, hopes to see a number of spiritual people align themselves with Christianity (cont).
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Re: Pagan Christians

#2  Postby Aca » Jun 21, 2013 2:52 pm

I lol-ed :D

It's business. I's all about number of customers.

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#3  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jun 21, 2013 3:15 pm

Aca wrote:I lol-ed :D

It's business. I's all about number of customers.

'effin joke


Exactly!

The big numbers game. The catholic and orthodox churches has been playing it for years.
Myths in islam Women and islam Musilm opinion polls


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#4  Postby mattthomas » Jun 21, 2013 3:25 pm

Paganism predates christianity and christians labelled pagans thusly as a form of insult...
and since christianity predates islam and muslims label christians as kafir as a form of insult...

I can't wait to see the indignation of the CofE when the muslim council of UK looks at ways to bring christians into the fold with islam very much in the centre :lol:
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#5  Postby magikrooster » Aug 15, 2013 9:09 am

A pagan is or was someone who wasn't a jew. Pagan , Heathen, Gentile. All it meant was a non jew. Someone from the other nations.
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#6  Postby Regina » Aug 15, 2013 12:37 pm

"Pagan" comes from the Latin "paganus". It has nothing to do with Judaism.

Latin
Etymology

From pāgus (“area outside of a city, countryside”).
Pronunciation

(Classical) IPA: /paːˈɡaː.nus/

Adjective

pāgānus m (feminine pāgāna, neuter pāgānum); first/second declension

Of or pertaining to the countryside, rural, rustic.
(by extension) rustic, unlearned
(substantive) villager, countryman
(substantive) civilian
(substantive, Ecclesiastical Latin) heathen, pagan

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Re: Pagan Christians

#7  Postby Alan B » Aug 15, 2013 12:55 pm

I don't care who you are - just gimme your money...
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#8  Postby Nicko » Aug 15, 2013 12:57 pm

They probably figure, "Hey, it worked the first time."
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#9  Postby Munchies » Aug 15, 2013 4:37 pm

I think it's quite a good idea to provide a platform for people of different beliefs(And none) to interact within their community. At the very least it's better than the existing situation in many communities where people are fragmented along cultural and religious lines with the associated tensions that arise under such circumstances.
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#10  Postby Alan B » Aug 17, 2013 3:41 pm

It all depends what the C of E means by 'spiritual'.

See "The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality" by Andre Comte-Sponville, a French philosopher, where he talks about a 'spiritual' dimension of the mind divorced from all the religious clap-trap.

I somehow think that they do not have 'spiritual' non-believers in mind.
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Re: Pagan Christians

#11  Postby Oeditor » Sep 02, 2013 8:10 pm

Aca wrote:'effin elfin joke
FIFY
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#12  Postby Oeditor » Sep 02, 2013 9:02 pm

Alan B wrote:See "The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality" by Andre Comte-Sponville
I prefer "The Little Book of Calm"** - it tastes much better.
**available from all branches of Black Books.
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#13  Postby stevecook172001 » Sep 02, 2013 9:18 pm

I'm an hard atheist and, I must confess, I do find it terribly easy to ridicule the CofE for their wishy-washy form of religiosity. Having said that, it is sadly the case that a significant proportion of the population of this and any other part of the world, are going to be too busy, too ignorant, too stupid, or too desperate for comfort in difficult lives to ever let go of some kind of impulse to believe in some kind of metaphysical, spiritual, religious explanation for their existence. That being inevitably the case, if we drive all of the generally innocuous forms of religion to extinction through mockery and cultural isolation, don't be deluded into believing that this will lead to some kind of cultural nirvana of secular humanists because it wont. It will simply leave a cultural vacuum that will be filled with the more virulent, intolerant forms of religion. Forms that will not so easily acquiesce to mockery.

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