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Re: Papacy Watch

#81  Postby tolman » Dec 03, 2014 10:59 am

How much time does the average Christian spend spontaneously denouncing people who bomb abortion clinics in other countries?

Possibly the average Christian feels no more responsible for such actions by others than the average Muslim feels responsible for other people's extremism.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#82  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 03, 2014 11:27 am

angelo wrote:Barbaric savages, the so-called moderates only ever condemn the extremists when some reporter mentions it, but they are encouraged to lie to the infidels.



Exactly Angelo. The extremists can't survive without the moderates but you must not say that here. :silenced:
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Re: Papacy Watch

#83  Postby angelo » Dec 03, 2014 11:34 am

Islam teaches that the koran is sent down by allah. The koran actually teaches muslims to kill infidels wherever they find them.
Yes, there's much violance in the babble, but there's a new testament which superimposes the old and it teaches peace.
Xtianity has had a reformation, even the pope has stated that evolution is fact, and that god is no magician. Were a muslim cleric to say that he would be be-headed or stoned to death, or at the very least, a fatwa placed upon him.
Speaking of avarage muslims, who was it that was dancing in the streets in the middle east on 9/11 ?

That spectacle will live with me forever.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#84  Postby Ironclad » Dec 05, 2014 8:11 am

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The man responsible for the Vatican's finances says he has found millions of Euros "tucked away" off balance sheets.

Cardinal George Pell, who heads the Vatican's Secretariat for the Economy, said it meant the Holy See's finances were better than expected


Oh good, just in time to give it all away to the poor children of the world, at Crimbletime. Like Jebus would have done.

"It is important to point out that the Vatican is not broke," Cardinal Pell wrote.


Indeed, so... the children, right?

Cardinal Pell said the reforms were "well underway and already past the point where the Vatican could return to the 'bad old days'".


Ah, fuck 'em then, yeah? :roll:
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Re: Papacy Watch

#85  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 05, 2014 8:38 am

Well they can pay all the victims their just rights.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#86  Postby angelo » Dec 05, 2014 10:25 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Well they can pay all the victims their just rights.

Exactly what came to mind this morning when I read it in the paper. Their new minister of finance is an Aussie ex bishop who covered up child abuse under his stewardship at various locations.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#87  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 05, 2014 11:57 am

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Scot Dutchy wrote:Well they can pay all the victims their just rights.

Exactly what came to mind this morning when I read it in the paper. Their new minister of finance is an Aussie ex bishop who covered up child abuse under his stewardship at various locations.


Par for the course then.
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#88  Postby angelo » Dec 05, 2014 12:10 pm

They would need to be dragged to a courtroom and made to pay!
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Re: Papacy Watch

#89  Postby DougC » Dec 13, 2014 1:00 am

B.B.C. - Pope declines Dalai Lama meeting in Rome
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#90  Postby angelo » Dec 14, 2014 4:01 am

I would imagine the pope's advisor's recommending against as it would offend China.
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#91  Postby DougC » Dec 22, 2014 9:33 pm

B.B.C. - Pope Francis sharply criticises Vatican bureaucracy
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#92  Postby John Platko » Dec 22, 2014 11:04 pm

DougC wrote:B.B.C. - Pope Francis sharply criticises Vatican bureaucracy


That takes balls ....

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#93  Postby Made of Stars » Dec 22, 2014 11:27 pm

A picture's worth a thousand words - look at the dude in the background:

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#94  Postby angelo » Dec 23, 2014 5:13 am

^^ He's probably thinking: " this guy has to be eliminated before we're all out of a job! :grin:
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#95  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 23, 2014 7:09 am

Well he is now on a tight rope.

A little something in the cocoa maybe.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#96  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Dec 23, 2014 8:27 am

angelo wrote:Islam teaches that the koran is sent down by allah. The koran actually teaches muslims to kill infidels wherever they find them.

Citation in context please?
Btw Jesus says this about infidels:
Matthew 12:30
"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."


angelo wrote:Yes, there's much violance in the babble, but there's a new testament which superimposes the old and it teaches peace.

It really doesn't.
It teaches parents to kill disobedient children.
It teaches people to abandon their family for Jesus.
It teaches Jesus came to bring the sword, not peace.
It's not a book about peace.

angelo wrote:Xtianity has had a reformation, even the pope has stated that evolution is fact, and that god is no magician. Were a muslim cleric to say that he would be be-headed or stoned to death, or at the very least, a fatwa placed upon him.
Speaking of avarage muslims, who was it that was dancing in the streets in the middle east on 9/11 ?

That spectacle will live with me forever.

Yep, because a small part of the worldwide population of muslims is completely representative.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#97  Postby Briton » Dec 23, 2014 11:43 am

angelo wrote:
Xtianity has had a reformation...


Civilisation had a reformation. Christianity has been dragged along kicking and screaming and has initially opposed just about every advance; it continues to do so.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#98  Postby John Platko » Dec 23, 2014 8:02 pm

Briton wrote:
angelo wrote:
Xtianity has had a reformation...


Civilisation had a reformation. Christianity has been dragged along kicking and screaming and has initially opposed just about every advance; it continues to do so.


Sadly, our Catholic Church is an over damped system. Adopting the notion of irreformable ideas tends to act on a brake on progress. Please excuse us while we are under renovation - this may take a while.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#99  Postby angelo » Dec 24, 2014 7:26 am

Briton wrote:
angelo wrote:
Xtianity has had a reformation...


Civilisation had a reformation. Christianity has been dragged along kicking and screaming and has initially opposed just about every advance; it continues to do so.

At least this pope and others before him admit evolution is a fact, only that god somehow "did it." :roll:

The grand mufti or whoever is the big honcho in islam clings to a belief that evolution is a Western conspiracy to undermine islam.
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Re: Papacy Watch

#100  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Dec 24, 2014 9:55 am

angelo wrote:
Briton wrote:
angelo wrote:
Xtianity has had a reformation...


Civilisation had a reformation. Christianity has been dragged along kicking and screaming and has initially opposed just about every advance; it continues to do so.

At least this pope and others before him admit evolution is a fact, only that god somehow "did it." :roll:

The grand mufti or whoever is the big honcho in islam clings to a belief that evolution is a Western conspiracy to undermine islam.

You're mistakenly confusing Islam with Catholicism.
Islam doesn't have a pope.
Sure, there are (multiple) people, claiming to have that role, but it's not a commonly accepted position among the worldwide population.
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