"Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#201  Postby Agrippina » Apr 28, 2015 5:31 am

I don't have a desire for God. I have a desire for chocolate. Is it the same thing? :dunno:
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#202  Postby John Platko » Apr 28, 2015 2:09 pm

Agrippina wrote:I don't have a desire for God. I have a desire for chocolate. Is it the same thing? :dunno:


Yes, but without the calories.
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#203  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Apr 28, 2015 11:08 pm

John Platko wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I don't have a desire for God. I have a desire for chocolate. Is it the same thing? :dunno:


Yes, but without the calories.

Without anything in fact! :grin:

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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#204  Postby Agrippina » Apr 29, 2015 5:20 am

John Platko wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I don't have a desire for God. I have a desire for chocolate. Is it the same thing? :dunno:


Yes, but without the calories.


What so God tastes like chocolate then? :shock:
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#205  Postby Shrunk » Apr 29, 2015 1:31 pm

Agrippina wrote:What so God tastes like chocolate then? :shock:


Catholics tell me he tastes like stale bread.
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#206  Postby John Platko » Apr 29, 2015 2:37 pm

Shrunk wrote:
Agrippina wrote:What so God tastes like chocolate then? :shock:


Catholics tell me he tastes like stale bread.


Hey - I'm a Catholic - and I say chocolate with no fact fat.
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#207  Postby Agrippina » Apr 30, 2015 5:46 am

No, Shrunk is right, I've tasted the "body of Christ" and it tastes like stale bread. And his blood tastes like really horrible cheap wine. :thumbup:
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#208  Postby Shrunk » May 02, 2015 8:40 pm

Another comment deleted from CWR for reasons that are unclear. If anything, its tone is more measured than many of my comments that get posted:

The Catholic Church has really backed itself into a corner with the intransigence of its position on gay rights. Many Catholic commentators, here and elsewhere, express concern that the growing consensus in favour of same sex marriage threatens the future of the Church. And they are correct, though not in the way they believe. Their fear is of the possibility of the state sending jackbooted thugs into churches to haul away anyone who preaches against homosexuality or refuses to perform a same sex marriage. Such paranoid fantasies are laughable.

The threat to the Church, rather, comes from the fact that its position against gay rights makes the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the institution increasingly impossible to ignore. A person who values his moral and intellectual integrity will find no place for himself in such a church. Michael Coren will be far from the last person to realize this.


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It was on this story:

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog ... ching.aspx
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#209  Postby Nebogipfel » May 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Shrunk wrote:
Agrippina wrote:What so God tastes like chocolate then? :shock:


Catholics tell me he tastes like stale bread.


Actually, I'd say more like stale ice-cream cone.
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#210  Postby Nebogipfel » May 03, 2015 12:21 pm



Gee, of course, Coren's stated reasons for leaving the Church can't possibly be the real ones... :roll:
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#211  Postby Shrunk » May 03, 2015 7:43 pm

Shrunk wrote:Another comment deleted from CWR for reasons that are unclear. If anything, its tone is more measured than many of my comments that get posted:

The Catholic Church has really backed itself into a corner with the intransigence of its position on gay rights. Many Catholic commentators, here and elsewhere, express concern that the growing consensus in favour of same sex marriage threatens the future of the Church. And they are correct, though not in the way they believe. Their fear is of the possibility of the state sending jackbooted thugs into churches to haul away anyone who preaches against homosexuality or refuses to perform a same sex marriage. Such paranoid fantasies are laughable.

The threat to the Church, rather, comes from the fact that its position against gay rights makes the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the institution increasingly impossible to ignore. A person who values his moral and intellectual integrity will find no place for himself in such a church. Michael Coren will be far from the last person to realize this.


:dunno:

It was on this story:

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog ... ching.aspx


Ah, mystery solved: All of my recent posts have been scrubbed, so it would appear I am now banned. It'd be nice if they had mentioned that, but I guess the Catholic Church is not exactly known for its transparency.
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Re: "Revisiting the Argument from Desire"

#212  Postby Onyx8 » May 04, 2015 1:01 am

I suspect you cut too close to the bone for them. Sad really, they'll miss you.
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