The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

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The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 25, 2018 3:20 pm

My lazy brief initial thoughts: Lent, marriage, monogamy, charity, blame the sin not the sinner, read, promote what you believe in (evangelise), beautiful buildings, beautiful music, community coherance....I'll stop there. Note - this thread is not about the bad bits of Christianity, so please keep things OT fam.
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#2  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 25, 2018 4:01 pm

Proverbs 4 v 6-9

6. Don't turn your back on wisdom for she will protect you.
7. Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do.
8. If you prize wisdom she will make you great.
9. She will place a lovely wreath on your head.
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#3  Postby laklak » Feb 25, 2018 4:14 pm

Be nice to your mum and dad.

Don't kill people.

Don't steal shit.

Don't fuck your neighbor's wife.
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#4  Postby BlackBart » Feb 25, 2018 4:49 pm

None of which is necessarily attributable exclusively to Christianity. Ancient Greeks and Romans practiced monogamy way before Christianity was invented. Same with charity. And most certainly wisdom. And there's loads of beautiful music which has nothing to do with any religion whilst Christian Rock is overwhelmingly dreadful. Go figure.
Christianity is just the 'Now thats what I call music' of morality and wisdom - Other peoples work in a tacky package.
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#5  Postby laklak » Feb 25, 2018 4:51 pm

Put "Christian" in front of anything and it destroys it. Christian Metal. Christian sex. Christians are the most boring fuckers on the planet.
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#6  Postby Macdoc » Feb 25, 2018 5:04 pm

boring ...no ...destructive and bloody yes and most of what you listed were appropriated from other life styles/cultures
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#7  Postby SafeAsMilk » Feb 25, 2018 5:11 pm

laklak wrote:Put "Christian" in front of anything and it destroys it. Christian Metal. Christian sex. Christians are the most boring fuckers on the planet.

I have to disagree, there's some pretty great Christian metal out there, of both the heavy and death varieties. Part of that is because it's funny, but in some cases the music is actually good too.
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#8  Postby Thommo » Feb 25, 2018 6:05 pm

  • The communion cracker.
  • The communion wine.
  • That funny hat the pope wears.
  • The popemobile.
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#9  Postby John Platko » Feb 25, 2018 6:51 pm

When I was a kid I thought Christmas was a good bit.
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#10  Postby BlackBart » Feb 25, 2018 7:12 pm

Which, once again, was appropriated from the Romans.
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#11  Postby LucidFlight » Feb 25, 2018 7:56 pm

Uh... churches... with pipe organs. Does that count? :ask:

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#12  Postby John Platko » Feb 25, 2018 8:18 pm

BlackBart wrote:Which, once again, was appropriated from the Romans.


It might have gone the way of Lupercalia if it wasnt for the church.
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#13  Postby Fallible » Feb 25, 2018 8:51 pm

And it might not have.
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#14  Postby BlackBart » Feb 25, 2018 10:04 pm

John Platko wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Which, once again, was appropriated from the Romans.


It might have gone the way of Lupercalia if it wasnt for the church.


No real reason to conclude that. If the 'church' didn't exist, festivals like Yule and Saturnalia would probably have carried on - humans do like an excuse for a party. We might have got to celebrate both of them.
Further, if we can speculate Lupercalia died out, we can just as easily speculate it morphed into Valentine's day.

And of course, none of that alters the fact that Christians hijacked Christmas from elsewhere.
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#15  Postby The_Piper » Feb 25, 2018 11:05 pm

The Boney M Christmas album. :shifty:
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#16  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 26, 2018 2:18 am

This. Always this.
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Re: The good bits of Christianity from atheists' perspectives

#17  Postby surreptitious57 » Feb 26, 2018 4:42 am

Being non judgemental of others
Giving to charity without publicity
The Golden Rule [ also the Silver Rule ]
The Parables [ especially the Good Samaritan ]
Accepting responsibility for all of the wrong one has ever done in their life
Commandments Four to Eight [ more recommendations than commandments ]
The washing of feet [ not the act as such rather what it represents : humility ]

Regardless of whether or not they are original or exclusive to Christianity since that doesnt actually matter

I borrow from Buddhism with reference to all suffering originating in the mind and craving being the cause
Also questioning everything and accepting nothing without scrutiny. And I take from secular philosophy too
with regard to utilitarianism and absurdism. So therefore if some moral wisdom is of value to me I will use
it regardless of its origin which is of no relevance at all beyond simple historical fact far as I am concerned

Opening up the discussion here because atheists discussing the positive merits of Christianity isnt really going anywhere

Also answering this question that atheists get asked usually by Christians : where does your morality come from. To which
my answer is : the same place as yours namely evolutionary psychology which is as least as old as religion if not older and
by many orders of millennia predates Christianity [ and the other big four belief systems as well ]
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#18  Postby laklak » Feb 26, 2018 4:54 am

Witch burnings. Everybody loves a good public immolation. Bring the kids and a picnic basket.

Pogroms. A nice release every now and then, and after all they're only Christ killing Jews.

Self-flagellation, hair shirts, and mortification of the flesh. Hey, God's Love is tough love, y'all.
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#19  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 26, 2018 4:57 am

Hmmmmmmm - hadn't heard of the Silver Rule before sur.

The Silver Rule (of LaVeyan Satanism) is “Do unto others as they do unto you.”


My initial reaction is that I don't like it. Reciprocating perceived good behaviour makes sense to me, but reciprocating perceived bad behaviour seems to rather validate it in my eyes as being acceptable...sinking to their level etc....nope; not for me I don't think...
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#20  Postby laklak » Feb 26, 2018 5:08 am

I like it, keeps things simple and understandable, across any culture or religion.
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