The meaning of Easter

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Re: The meaning of Easter

#41  Postby Ironclad » Apr 03, 2015 9:26 pm

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Re: The meaning of Easter

#42  Postby Oldskeptic » Apr 03, 2015 10:42 pm

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That part is what sets them apart from mainline Christianity I think.


What is mainline Christianity? Is it the sect with the most adherents, or possibly the one you find the least weird? Personally I find them all weird. I grew up Mormon and we of course thought we were the mainline Christians and Catholics were weird because they had garish and bloody resurrection art, burned incense, and their leaders wore funny outfits to church. Then I met Catholics that thought Mormons were weird because they wear holy undergarments and think God lives on the planet Kolob.

I don't think that there is such a thing as mainline Christianity just an assortment of cults all believing in weird things. All that these cults have in common is that they all believe that they have the one and only true understanding of a ridiculous man that died a couple thousand years ago.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#43  Postby Blackadder » Apr 03, 2015 11:16 pm

chairman bill wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Is that a bit like a Christian Scientist, then?


Aren't Christian Scientists Christians? They believe in supernaturalist mumbo-jumbo, including telepathic communication with their invisible friend. I'm not sure how that relates to anything I said. Or maybe I'm just missing the joke.


Atheist pagan. An oxymoron. Like Christian Scientist.

I find by the time one has explained the joke, the comedy value has been somewhat depleted. As on this occasion.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#44  Postby jinxu » Apr 03, 2015 11:23 pm

Blackadder wrote:
chairman bill wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Is that a bit like a Christian Scientist, then?


Aren't Christian Scientists Christians? They believe in supernaturalist mumbo-jumbo, including telepathic communication with their invisible friend. I'm not sure how that relates to anything I said. Or maybe I'm just missing the joke.


Atheist pagan. An oxymoron. Like Christian Scientist.

I find by the time one has explained the joke, the comedy value has been somewhat depleted. As on this occasion.


:lol: never too late to laugh at a good joke. I will laugh by myself in the drive home when I finally think about a good joke.

Sorry, I derailed the joke.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#45  Postby chairman bill » Apr 04, 2015 9:22 am

Blackadder wrote:Atheist pagan. An oxymoron. Like Christian Scientist.

I find by the time one has explained the joke, the comedy value has been somewhat depleted. As on this occasion.


Well that depends on how you define a pagan. Stripped of the various differences, and whittled down to the commonality of belief across the various 'neo-pagan' paths, you end up with beliefs that are grounded in a deep reverence for the earth & nature, and a set of festivals that mark the changing seasons and a set of astronomical events (solstices & equinoxes).
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#46  Postby fluttermoth » Apr 04, 2015 10:05 am

chairman bill wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Atheist pagan. An oxymoron. Like Christian Scientist.

I find by the time one has explained the joke, the comedy value has been somewhat depleted. As on this occasion.


Well that depends on how you define a pagan. Stripped of the various differences, and whittled down to the commonality of belief across the various 'neo-pagan' paths, you end up with beliefs that are grounded in a deep reverence for the earth & nature, and a set of festivals that mark the changing seasons and a set of astronomical events (solstices & equinoxes).


Agreed. Many of the pagans I've known are very close to being atheist themselves. I was actually in a wicca coven for a few years in my late teens/early twenties! And yes, we did dance round the woods in the altogether; 'skyclad' they call it ;) . They recognised that 'Pan' and 'Diana' were really just anthropomorphised natural principles, and didn't believe in them as actual, objectively existing god-like entities.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#47  Postby wunksta » Apr 04, 2015 10:12 am

Can anyone actually make a timeline of all the events that happened from the crucifixion to the end of the resurrection? There's so much stuff that supposedly happened.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#48  Postby chairman bill » Apr 04, 2015 10:12 am

fluttermoth wrote:[... we did dance round the woods in the altogether; 'skyclad' they call it ...


Photos, or it never happened :smile:
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#49  Postby fluttermoth » Apr 04, 2015 2:10 pm

chairman bill wrote:
fluttermoth wrote:[... we did dance round the woods in the altogether; 'skyclad' they call it ...


Photos, or it never happened :smile:


lol, then in one sense, it didn't happen :)
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#50  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 04, 2015 2:22 pm

Disappointed again bill? :lol:
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#51  Postby Matthew Shute » Apr 04, 2015 3:05 pm

Calilasseia wrote:
chairman bill wrote:Many of the northern European pagan festivals, are markers for the changing seasons & astronomical events. Shorn of the rituals & claims of divinity/godly involvement, I still find them somehow meaningful, both in marking those changes/events, and as some sort of contact/continuation of things my ancestors found important. But that's just me, an atheist pagan.


Heh, I've posted on numerous occasions how paganism is so much more fun than the Abrahamic religions. Instead of all this shit about how you deserve to be tortured for eternity, paganism offers you the opportunity to get naked with Natasha Khan lookalikes in the woods. :mrgreen:

Sign me up! :grin:
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#52  Postby laklak » Apr 04, 2015 3:18 pm

It's an excuse to roast up various bits of a small ruminant, not that I really need an excuse. This year we're doing leg of goat, cabrito in chocolate mole. It will be epic. Then we'll drink Irish whiskey, just because.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#53  Postby chairman bill » Apr 04, 2015 3:26 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Disappointed again bill? :lol:


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Re: The meaning of Easter

#54  Postby epepke » Apr 04, 2015 9:10 pm

Oldskeptic wrote:
jinxu wrote:

That part is what sets them apart from mainline Christianity I think.


What is mainline Christianity?


I think it involves a rubber hose and a hypodermic syringe with holy water in it.
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Re: The meaning of Easter

#55  Postby jinxu » Apr 05, 2015 11:32 pm

Oldskeptic wrote:
jinxu wrote:

That part is what sets them apart from mainline Christianity I think.


What is mainline Christianity? Is it the sect with the most adherents, or possibly the one you find the least weird? Personally I find them all weird. I grew up Mormon and we of course thought we were the mainline Christians and Catholics were weird because they had garish and bloody resurrection art, burned incense, and their leaders wore funny outfits to church. Then I met Catholics that thought Mormons were weird because they wear holy undergarments and think God lives on the planet Kolob.

I don't think that there is such a thing as mainline Christianity just an assortment of cults all believing in weird things. All that these cults have in common is that they all believe that they have the one and only true understanding of a ridiculous man that died a couple thousand years ago.


Really? The planet Kolob?

Mainline Christianity, in my view, is basically the group of people that have the most in agreement, and usually the one with the most adherents. Also, usually separated by the least differences, I guess is another way to look at it.
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