Cito di Pense wrote:

paarsurrey wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

The first dogma of a religion is the delusion that all its adherents believe the same things.

Citation from the root source, please

I did find this:

http://www.uusmv.info/Noncreedal.htm

I guess the UU's manage, somehow. But even they, apparently, believe they are all seeking after the experience of god. The root word in 'religion' is the same as that in the word 'ligature'.

Lots of people show up for fellowship, but are just out to have a good time. They're not religious. People congregate because they believe they all have something in common. Maybe they all just believe the untaxed real estate is not going to waste.

This takes us rather far afield from the role of the body in repentance.

I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

paarsurrey wrote:
I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

I disagree. I don't think the books are the religions. The source of religion is the woo in people's heads. But the woo isn't the religion. Religions X, Y, Z is the set of labels people paste on their delusions that a bunch of people all believe the same things. Ritual is the observance of repetive activities, but it isn't the religion. There's really very little to 'religion'. Deacon Struction told me that.

Cito di Pense wrote:

paarsurrey wrote:
I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

I disagree. I don't think the books are the religions. The source of religion is the woo in people's heads. But the woo isn't the religion. Religions X, Y, Z is the set of labels people paste on their delusions that a bunch of people all believe the same things. Ritual is the observance of repetive activities, but it isn't the religion. There's really very little to 'religion'. Deacon Struction told me that.

LOL.

Agreed, people of all religions worship their invisible woo woo the same basic ways, only the symbols differ. I learned that from Deacon Struction too.

Cito di Pense wrote:

paarsurrey wrote:
I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

I disagree. I don't think the books are the religions. The source of religion is the woo in people's heads. But the woo isn't the religion. Religions X, Y, Z is the set of labels people paste on their delusions that a bunch of people all believe the same things. Ritual is the observance of repetive activities, but it isn't the religion. There's really very little to 'religion'. Deacon Struction told me that.

I understand; you mean you don't have any root sources to quote to support your viewpoint. You could disagree however.

paarsurrey wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

paarsurrey wrote:
I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

I disagree. I don't think the books are the religions. The source of religion is the woo in people's heads. But the woo isn't the religion. Religions X, Y, Z is the set of labels people paste on their delusions that a bunch of people all believe the same things. Ritual is the observance of repetive activities, but it isn't the religion. There's really very little to 'religion'. Deacon Struction told me that.

I understand; you mean you don't have any root sources to quote to support your viewpoint. You could disagree however.

Do you have any root sources to support your viewpoint? No? I thought not. We're even, then. Those books you cite? Those are summaries of religious beliefs, and not their sources. Remember who showed you your first scripture? It was a person. You didn't just pick up the sodding thing and start reading because you were interested.

And then, if you think about it, somebody had to write the bloody things. I wonder what the sources of their writings were? Other writings? Do you think the first writing was by the hand of god, or something weird like that?

proudfootz wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

paarsurrey wrote:
I meant Gospels, Torah, Vedas, Gita, Quran etc.; these are the root sources of different religions.

I disagree. I don't think the books are the religions. The source of religion is the woo in people's heads. But the woo isn't the religion. Religions X, Y, Z is the set of labels people paste on their delusions that a bunch of people all believe the same things. Ritual is the observance of repetive activities, but it isn't the religion. There's really very little to 'religion'. Deacon Struction told me that.

People certainly seem to believe a lot of stuff, and theology is an attempt to make it intellectually respectable.

Humans are the rationalizing animal.

It is like renovating an ancient mansion; it is in a very shabby condition; but it could be renovated to its old and lost grandeur.