willhud9 wrote:

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Summary for the video? I don't have time to watch it.

Thanks.

Then do not speak for the Jewish thinking without knowing it.

WOW. One video summarizes the entire Jewish view. Compared to the amount of books and study I have committed too on the subject. Please GIA, I am well aware of the Jewish worldview.

Reading is good. Thinking is better. I have discarded 95% of what I have read. Thank God. Most of it was garbage.
Glad you are well read though. Then you can put some kind of Jewish document that calls Eden a fall against the one I gave denying it.
I am always eager to learn but KIS.

Now. Seems that from the Jewish POV as well as my own, we recognize that man is instinctively led to seek knowledge.

As well as the Christian point of view or is the verse "test everything" in 1 Thessalonians just a means to remain ignorant?

Did A & E not do a little test themselves. A good thing from what you are saying.
They tested and found that it was good to seek knowledge. Yet you call it a fall for man to become as Gods. Tsk tsk.

No Adam and Eve disobeyed God and any Jew will tell you that's a no-no. Or are the Books of Law (Pentateuch) irrelevant to an orthodox Jew? They cannot eat non-kosher foods, but how will they "know" the food until they try it? The law is hindering them from their pursuit of knowledge, is it not? Find me scholarly sources i.e. published in books, online journals etc. where Jews believe Adam and Eve did right by eating the fruit that God had forbid, and I'll concede my point on your behalf.

Otherwise, I see this analogy in film as exactly the stupid and amoral humans we would be without that disobedience of a really stupid command. My point is at the 50 second mark on.

Watch if you like. If not, like the last one I gave, then go away.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the ... RM=LKVR38#

First of all, Adam and Eve were not real. Second of all, the story does not focus on man's pursuit of knowledge. Nowhere in the text does that get implied. You are reading too much into the text. The story discusses the importance of humans in God's creation, and the fact that humans are prone to disobey the command's of God. The Jewish and non-Augustinian Christian view of this is that Adam and Eve set the negative example of what NOT to do. It allows individuals a chance to live up to God's expectations. Hence the view from the first link that it is the "raising" of Man. This does not mean Adam and Eve did right or applauded for their actions, but rather it gives the Jewish and Christian follower an example to set their lives on the course to live according to God's wishes.