The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9601  Postby The_Metatron » Sep 12, 2021 8:02 pm

Imagine how proud your Mom must be, knowing you have failed to convince anyone with your crap after trying for two decades.

Who have you convinced?
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9602  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 12, 2021 8:44 pm

just shows how much smarter than everyone else he is.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9603  Postby hackenslash » Sep 12, 2021 9:53 pm

psikeyhackr wrote:As the first person to mention Noether's Theorem I will not dare to exhibit the chutzpah to challenge your intellect delusions.


You only think I was the first person to mention Noether's Theorem, which once again speaks to your competence to pronounce on the competence of others.

Honestly, dude, this isn't even middle-school physics you're failing at. And you want to call me deluded.

Fucking fantastic.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9604  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 13, 2021 12:23 am

The_Metatron wrote:Imagine how proud your Mom must be, knowing you have failed to convince anyone with your crap after trying for two decades.

Who have you convinced?


My mother! Imagine whatever psychological bullshit you want since you cannot do competent physics.

Nobody you know. But some people do find it odd that they have never encountered discussion of steel distribution in 1360 foot skyscrapers. How much brains to people have to lack even after it is pointed out to not find it peculiar?

Most people won't research things for themselves.

I have only had two people claim to duplicate my model from YouTube.

But economics is just as bad. Where is the dat a on the annual depreciation of automobiles since Sputnik. Way more important than 9/11.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9605  Postby Xaihe » Sep 13, 2021 1:27 pm

We don't need to know what the distribution of shit was in your intestines to know your verbal diarrhoea have as much relevance to the collapse of the twin towers as what you left in the toilet bowl.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9606  Postby The_Metatron » Sep 13, 2021 2:35 pm

psikeyhackr wrote:
The_Metatron wrote:Imagine how proud your Mom must be, knowing you have failed to convince anyone with your crap after trying for two decades.

Who have you convinced?


My mother! Imagine whatever psychological bullshit you want since you cannot do competent physics.

Nobody you know. But some people do find it odd that they have never encountered discussion of steel distribution in 1360 foot skyscrapers. How much brains to people have to lack even after it is pointed out to not find it peculiar?

Most people won't research things for themselves.

I have only had two people claim to duplicate my model from YouTube.

But economics is just as bad. Where is the dat a on the annual depreciation of automobiles since Sputnik. Way more important than 9/11.

Answer the fucking question.

Who have you convinced? You've had two decades. I'm talking about your behavior. Or, do you click on "quote", then just start yammering about unrelated shit?

I doubt you have enough thumbs on one hand on which to count those minds you've changed.

If your ideas had merit, this would not be the case.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9607  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 13, 2021 4:50 pm

So you think you can tell me what to do.

Tell us where the NCSTAR1 report specifies the total amount of concrete that was in the Twin Towers.

If you do that everyone can verify it for themselves. If you can't do it what does it say about the NIST and people like you paying attention to them?
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9608  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 13, 2021 7:01 pm

hackenslash wrote:
psikeyhackr wrote:As the first person to mention Noether's Theorem I will not dare to exhibit the chutzpah to challenge your intellect delusions.


You only think I was the first person to mention Noether's Theorem, which once again speaks to your competence to pronounce on the competence of others.

Honestly, dude, this isn't even middle-school physics you're failing at. And you want to call me deluded.

Fucking fantastic.


I don't care about any mentions in any other threads. It is a simple matter to do a Google site search.

I hope that doesn't cause any delusional dissonance.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9609  Postby hackenslash » Sep 13, 2021 7:15 pm

Once again, you show your incompetence. YOU have been talking about Noether's Theorem. If you had the faintest fucking clue of what you were on about, that would be apparent. As it is, though, something else is apparent.

Dude, I've forgotten more about physics than you know.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9610  Postby The_Metatron » Sep 13, 2021 8:12 pm

psikeyhackr wrote:So you think you can tell me what to do.

Perhaps.

psikeyhackr wrote:Tell us ...
[Reveal] Spoiler: gibberish
where the NCSTAR1 report specifies the total amount of concrete that was in the Twin Towers.

If you do that everyone can verify it for themselves. If you can't do it what does it say about the NIST and people like you paying attention to them?

Looks like you are telling me what to do, doesn't it?

Good for you, but no one else?

You aren't engaging in any sort of conversation here, simply ignoring what others post and gibbering. So, since you aren't here to engage, why are you here?

Is this simple trolling?
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9611  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 13, 2021 8:33 pm

The_Metatron wrote:
Is this simple trolling?


Yeah just like the NCSTAR1 report.

You are just asking what I can't prove. You are asking for trolling.

I am giving you something you can prove if it is true. How much concrete does the NIST say was in the Twin Towers?
Where is that data in the NCSTAR1 report? Give us a quote and a page.

I am saying it ain't there. You can prove I'm a liar.

If it is there and you can find it. If it ain't there then the NIST Has been trolling us for 20 years.

And dummies have believed them.
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#9612  Postby felltoearth » Sep 14, 2021 3:24 am

You mean the 4” concrete topping on the metal deck in NCSTAR 1-6 that is the basis for the modelling?

This was pointed out by me previously.

https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get ... _id=101279

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#9613  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 14, 2021 4:11 am

felltoearth wrote:You mean the 4” concrete topping on the metal deck in NCSTAR 1-6 that is the basis for the modelling?

This was pointed out by me previously.

https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get ... _id=101279

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How much concrete does the NIST say was in the Twin Towers?
Where is that data in the NCSTAR1 report? Give us a quote and a page.

I am sorry, I mean total amount of concrete in the towers. Do you think concrete was only in the floors.

If you do a little research you will find two types of concrete were used in the buildings, 150 lb/cu ft and 110 lb/cu ft.
The floor slabs between the core and the perimeter was 110. Since I am talking about mass we need to know how much of each type.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9614  Postby felltoearth » Sep 14, 2021 10:14 am

I’m not doing this again. You’ve had ten years. You still have nothing. Bye.


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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9615  Postby The_Metatron » Sep 14, 2021 2:18 pm

psikeyhackr wrote:
The_Metatron wrote:
Is this simple trolling?


Yeah just like the NCSTAR1 report.

You are just asking what I can't prove. You are asking for trolling.

I am giving you something you can prove if it is true. How much concrete does the NIST say was in the Twin Towers?
Where is that data in the NCSTAR1 report? Give us a quote and a page.

I am saying it ain't there. You can prove I'm a liar.

Why bother? You're doing all the proving that is needed for that!
psikeyhackr wrote:If it is there and you can find it. If it ain't there then the NIST Has been trolling us for 20 years.

And dummies have believed them.

I am curious, what building failures have you predicted? Where can we read some of your engineering reports? Or perhaps, let's see your transcripts. You've had twenty years to get a formal engineering education. Where did you study? Why should anyone believe you?

Again, twenty fucking years. You've convinced no one. Some lifetimes aren't that long. That's some longitudinal failure.

Don Quixote would be impressed.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9616  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 14, 2021 4:10 pm

Why bother? You're doing all the proving that is needed for that!

You've convinced no one.


You are the one bothering to post. You have no way of knowing if I have convinced anyone or not. It is not as though this is the only site I have posted on. It is not my fault that morons do not look at official sources and notice obvious missing information.

The NIST admits that the top of the South Tower tilted 20 to 25 degrees. It can hardly be missed in the videos.

Where is there any discussion of the 'center of gravity' or 'center of mass?

Both terms are in the NCSTAR1 report, but not about 25 stories of building weighing tens of thousands of tons.

If you don't like my spending my time posting and think there is some point in talking about my mother I don't give a damn. You should have noticed that I have had plenty of practice ignoring dumb people.

I even find their blather occasionally entertaining. Give me a few more laughs.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9617  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 14, 2021 6:08 pm

The_Metatron wrote: You've had twenty years to get a formal engineering education.

yaeh, but as he keeps mentioning: NO engineering school investigates his pet issue,
so presumably none of them are worthy of his presence :coffee:
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#9618  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 14, 2021 6:53 pm

psikeyhackr wrote:The NIST admits that the top of the South Tower tilted 20 to 25 degrees.

that is a lie: Nowhere in the report is the word „admit“ used in the context of tilting.
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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9619  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 14, 2021 7:48 pm

Agi Hammerthief wrote:
psikeyhackr wrote:The NIST admits that the top of the South Tower tilted 20 to 25 degrees.

that is a lie: Nowhere in the report is the word „admit“ used in the context of tilting.


ROFL

Are you actually capable of using the English language?

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Re: The Obligatory 9/11 Thread Part II

#9620  Postby psikeyhackr » Sep 14, 2021 8:03 pm

Agi Hammerthief wrote:
The_Metatron wrote: You've had twenty years to get a formal engineering education.

yaeh, but as he keeps mentioning: NO engineering school investigates his pet issue,
so presumably none of them are worthy of his presence :coffee:


Yeah 1360 foot skyscrapers collapsing straight down in less than 20 seconds is totally uninteresting.

The conservation of momentum is a delusion.

50 yrs ago MIT students disrupted an SF convention because of poor physics in a science fiction book.
MIT - Ringworld
https://www.theguardian.com/books/books ... -ringworld
But apparently they can accept the straight down collapse of 1360 ft skyscrapers without steel & concrete distribution data.
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