American biology teachers lambast Clastie

NilsGLindgren · **#181** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 02, 2012 7:50 pm

No, whales have screws. And periscopes.

Weaver · **#182** by **Weaver** » Feb 02, 2012 7:51 pm

Humans certainly modeled airplane wings after birds' wings - there was a whole lot of study of the shape and motion of bird wings in early flight attempts.

Spearthrower · **#183** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 02, 2012 7:52 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:No, whales have screws. And periscopes.

And torpedoes! Every time a ship sinks for unknown reasons... look out for scoffing whales in the proximity.

Weaver · **#184** by **Weaver** » Feb 02, 2012 7:52 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:No, whales have screws. And periscopes.

And torpedo tubes. And submarine-launched intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple, independently targetable re-entry vehicles with dial-a-yield fission-fusion warheads.

The parallels are simply astounding, really.

NilsGLindgren · **#185** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 02, 2012 7:54 pm

Weaver wrote:Humans certainly modeled airplane wings after birds' wings - there was a whole lot of study of the shape and motion of bird wings in early flight attempts.

Yus, indeed. However, a model plane built like a bird will fly like a brick because of lack of internal stability.

Weaver · **#186** by **Weaver** » Feb 02, 2012 7:58 pm

True - must be the lighter-than-air Breath of Gawd keeping all them birdies aloft!

Spearthrower · **#187** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 02, 2012 8:07 pm

Weaver wrote:True - must be the lighter-than-air Breath of Gawd keeping all them birdies aloft!

You just know he weeps everytime a sparrow dies.

Weaver · **#188** by **Weaver** » Feb 02, 2012 8:11 pm

That's why it rains all the time - he sees every sparrow fall, and the constant weeping makes it rain.

I note that there very few sparrows in the desert - must be why it doesn't rain there much.

Spearthrower · **#189** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 03, 2012 8:00 am

Weaver wrote:That's why it rains all the time - he sees every sparrow fall, and the constant weeping makes it rain.

I note that there very few sparrows in the desert - must be why it doesn't rain there much.

Ooh sciency stuff! Like observations fitting with the god hypothesis! It must be true then!

NilsGLindgren · **#190** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 03, 2012 8:05 am

What's funny is that a model plane built like Archaeopteryx might fly, because it has internal stability. Old Archaeopteryx was really primitive. I wonder when birds did start to use active stabilisation?

Spearthrower · **#191** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 03, 2012 8:27 am

NilsGLindgren wrote:What's funny is that a model plane built like Archaeopteryx might fly, because it has internal stability. Old Archaeopteryx was really primitive. I wonder when birds did start to use active stabilisation?

NilsGLindgren · **#192** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 03, 2012 9:34 am

I said birds, spear ... but yes, I've seen those radio controlled pterodactyls, however, note that they have put a tail piece on it - as far as I know, real pterodactyls did not have one, possibly meaning they lacked internal stability (I believe I read a few years back that one hypothesis was that the head crest some of them sported was a means of controlling stability).
Modern fighter aircraft, like the Swedish JAS-39, don't have internal stability, meaning, their maneuvrability is enhanced.

Sovereign · **#193** by **Sovereign** » Feb 03, 2012 9:49 am

NilsGLindgren wrote:I said birds, spear ... but yes, I've seen those radio controlled pterodactyls, however, note that they have put a tail piece on it - as far as I know, real pterodactyls did not have one, possibly meaning they lacked internal stability (I believe I read a few years back that one hypothesis was that the head crest some of them sported was a means of controlling stability).
Modern fighter aircraft, like the Swedish JAS-39, don't have internal stability, meaning, their maneuvrability is enhanced.

Actually God held them in his hand like we do toy airplanes so internal stability wasn't needed. :smoke:

Spearthrower · **#194** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 03, 2012 12:18 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:I said birds, spear ...

Oh, I wasn't disputing that... just posting a video of pterodactyl models!

NilsGLindgren wrote:but yes, I've seen those radio controlled pterodactyls, however, note that they have put a tail piece on it - as far as I know, real pterodactyls did not have one, possibly meaning they lacked internal stability (I believe I read a few years back that one hypothesis was that the head crest some of them sported was a means of controlling stability).
Modern fighter aircraft, like the Swedish JAS-39, don't have internal stability, meaning, their maneuvrability is enhanced.

Yeah, that head crest looks very important for stability.

NilsGLindgren · **#195** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 03, 2012 12:50 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
NilsGLindgren wrote:I said birds, spear ...

Oh, I wasn't disputing that... just posting a video of pterodactyl models!

One should never pass over an opportunity to nit-pick ... :lol:

Spearthrower · **#196** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 03, 2012 12:54 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
NilsGLindgren wrote:I said birds, spear ...

Oh, I wasn't disputing that... just posting a video of pterodactyl models!

One should never pass over an opportunity to nit-pick ...

Nits are only found on humans and chimpanzees - not birds or pterodactyls! I think you mean tick-pick! :naughty2:

tolman · **#197** by **tolman** » Feb 08, 2012 4:17 pm

Atheistoclast wrote:The second reviewer admitted that anything resembling a creationist argument is anathema to the educational establishment.

Might that be because pretty much any creationist argument yet examined has been shown to be a bag of shite, written by people lacking either the ability to understand modern biology, or the honesty to report it accurately?

Atheistoclast wrote:It seems like some identify creationism with fascism, racism, homophobia and other politically incorrect views.

To the extent those views are also typically founded on crashing ignorance, fuckwittedness, self-aggrandisement, self-delusion and dishonesty, I guess you're right.

NilsGLindgren · **#198** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 08, 2012 4:35 pm

tolman - it appears the destroyer of atheists no longer wishes to communicate with the dark side of the force [of rational skepticism] in this thread, meaning, I will not get any answers to my questions regarding on what grounds he made claims on the probability of differences in DNA being mirrored in proteins giving rise to differences in living creatures. Sad, sad, sad.
SO my proposition is we either stick to discussing the aerodynamical stability of pterodactyls, or, possibly, go to the pub, hard as that may appear, what with us spread over 6 continents, but, where there's a will ...

Spearthrower · **#199** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 08, 2012 4:49 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:tolman - it appears the destroyer of atheists no longer wishes to communicate with the dark side of the force [of rational skepticism] in this thread, meaning, I will not get any answers to my questions regarding on what grounds he made claims on the probability of differences in DNA being mirrored in proteins giving rise to differences in living creatures. Sad, sad, sad.
SO my proposition is we either stick to discussing the aerodynamical stability of pterodactyls, or, possibly, go to the pub, hard as that may appear, what with us spread over 6 continents, but, where there's a will ...

Insha'Allah!

NilsGLindgren · **#200** by **NilsGLindgren** » Feb 08, 2012 5:05 pm

Spearthrower wrote:

Insha'Allah!

Gesundheit

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