Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#201  Postby Fenrir » Jul 27, 2022 8:28 am

Lol

Ignorance rules

Not only are deleterious mutations not automajically deadly, deleterious mutations can end up part of the pathway to beneficial mutations.

As seen in selection for chloroquine resistance in Plasmodium falciparum.

As hilariously and embarrassingly misunderstood and misrepresented by Behe in "Edge of Evolution" and corrected by just about everyone.
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#202  Postby Fenrir » Jul 27, 2022 8:28 am

Facts.

Hard to beat.
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#203  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 27, 2022 10:33 am

Fenrir wrote:
Not only are deleterious mutations not automajically deadly, deleterious mutations can end up part of the pathway to beneficial mutations.


It's a big ask to expect a Creationist to put away their habitual binary thinking.

But but but it says 'deleterious', so it means baaaaad.
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#204  Postby Rumraket » Jul 29, 2022 9:54 pm

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Come back here and post when SARS-Cov2 has no descendants detected in the human population. Until that happens, you coming here to post that cases are dropping is of no value or significance. The number you need is zero. Any frequency above zero, no matter where on a recent trendline, does not substantiate your case because we expect viruses to rise and fall in frequency all the time.


Already, many variants have of Sars-Cov2 have disappeared.

Why are you back? SARS-Cov2 is still around. You lost. Go be dumb somewhere else.
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#205  Postby Rumraket » Aug 29, 2022 11:46 am

Oh look, it's been a month and SARS-Cov2 is still around. And still everywhere. Including Japan, India, and all the other places we've been told it would be going extinct soon.

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#206  Postby Wortfish » Sep 04, 2022 6:56 pm

Rumraket wrote:Oh look, it's been a month and SARS-Cov2 is still around. And still everywhere. Including Japan, India, and all the other places we've been told it would be going extinct soon.

I won't. Ever.


Many of the variants have gone extinct. Only Omicron is thriving. As this strain picks up slightly harmful mutations, it will lose its ability to transmit and replicate.
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#207  Postby Spearthrower » Sep 04, 2022 8:15 pm

Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:Oh look, it's been a month and SARS-Cov2 is still around. And still everywhere. Including Japan, India, and all the other places we've been told it would be going extinct soon.

I won't. Ever.


Many of the variants have gone extinct. Only Omicron is thriving. As this strain picks up slightly harmful mutations, it will lose its ability to transmit and replicate.



Otherwise known as submit your revolutionary discovery to a scientific journal and bask in the ensuing fame.

I mean, you have to show, you know, evidence and stuff, but that's a mere formality when you've got such a stunningly awesome idea, right?
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#208  Postby Greg the Grouper » Sep 04, 2022 10:40 pm

Sars-Cov2 will become the only other organism on the planet capable of understanding thermodynamics. Mark my words.
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#209  Postby Rumraket » Sep 30, 2022 8:13 am

One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!
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#210  Postby Spearthrower » Sep 30, 2022 12:33 pm

It's lulling the evilowambamalutionalists into a false sense of security, then it will go extinct and prove the Biblical world-view was right all along.
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#211  Postby Wortfish » Dec 03, 2022 2:36 am

Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.
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#212  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 03, 2022 3:03 am

Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.



Which is otherwise known as...
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#213  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 03, 2022 6:36 am

Lucky I didn't start a drum roll to cue the response, else I expect I'd have to beat the current Guinness world record by a substantial margin.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/wo ... -drum-roll

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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#214  Postby Fenrir » Dec 03, 2022 10:24 am

Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.


According to worldometers there were +191,554 new cases today. What was it you were attempting to equivocate away again?
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Re: Creationist and Evolutionist hypotheses put to the test

#215  Postby Wortfish » Dec 03, 2022 5:32 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.



Which is otherwise known as...


Devolution.
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#216  Postby Wortfish » Dec 03, 2022 5:33 pm

Fenrir wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.


According to worldometers there were +191,554 new cases today. What was it you were attempting to equivocate away again?


Most are from Japan.
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#217  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 03, 2022 5:35 pm

Wortfish wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.



Which is otherwise known as...


Devolution.


If you talk nonsense, what kind of responses do you expect back?
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#218  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 03, 2022 5:38 pm

Wortfish wrote:
Fenrir wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
Rumraket wrote:One more month, still no evidence it will go extinct. Place your bets now!


The virus is still around, but it has acquired so many mutations to escape detection that it cannot replicate and infect as well as it did early on.


According to worldometers there were +191,554 new cases today. What was it you were attempting to equivocate away again?


Most are from Japan.



And the average price this year in Yen per kg of tuna is JPY 553.48 .
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#219  Postby Wortfish » Dec 03, 2022 6:29 pm

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And the average price this year in Yen per kg of tuna is JPY 553.48 .


Japan is late to Covid. The population hasn't built up natural immunity to it.
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#220  Postby Cito di Pense » Dec 03, 2022 7:35 pm

Wortfish wrote:
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And the average price this year in Yen per kg of tuna is JPY 553.48 .


Japan is late to Covid. The population hasn't built up natural immunity to it.


You really have a way with words, Wortfish. Such as the word late:

The Japanese government confirmed the country's first case of the disease on 16 January 2020 in a resident of Kanagawa Prefecture who had returned from Wuhan, China.


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