tolman wrote:No, 'they' isn't whoever did the survey, since the survey was of diagnoses which had been made by others,
specifically looking at the influence of class-relative age on diagnosis, and wasn't a diagnosing effort in itself.
I was highly confident that would be the case even before I saw the survey, based solely on your ramblings about it.
Which would seem to suggest that you
literally don't know what you're talking about.
Possibly if you had a less 'us and them' (or, rather 'me vs. '
them') attitude, you'd be less likely to get so badly muddled.
I hadn't seen the paper at the time I said that so your criticism is just about attacking me. All I had at the time was what Frances had said. According to Dr Frances many of the children had been medicated. So it was reasonable to believe that the survey involved the people diagnosing.
It is hard not to think in terms of "them and us" partly because I am being seriously hassled for what I am saying. But also because of what I see by people who are in a position to do good if they weren't so interested in money, at least as it appears to me from what I read on the net psychiatrists are in the pockets of big pharma. They do not do science to decide what constitutes a mental illness, IF there is even any truth in there being any mental illness at all.
I would say all of those who are considered seriously mentally ill, the 5% of the population, according to Dr Frances, are really seriously stressed individuals. The rest, the 15% of the population who are said to have mild to moderate mental illness are not even sick. They are definitely suffering from issues due to life events or bad relationships. And he makes no bones about saying that they are redefining normal as mentally ill. That in my opinion is criminal.
If you look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OhVshzYvn8 Greg Neimeyer, PhD, American Psychological Foundation, Education Directorate associate executive director for continuing education, reviews changes in the DSM-5 in this lecture. It is a 1hr video but where exactly it is said at approx. 11mins, this guy says the psychiatrists have removed from the DSM 5 the fact that some mental disorders are associated with some physical illness, eg he said people who are diagnosed with anxiety disorder may also have a heart problem or diabetes etc., on the grounds that they now consider all of mental disorders as the same as any physical illness.
I noticed one guy in the comments at the Allen Frances video on youtube says:
"Psychiatrists are the most dangerous criminals affecting our planet today. The true terrorists are psychiatrists and they have fooled everyone. Wake up people."
Based on what I see and hear and read I have to agree with this because I see psychiatrists defend the offenders and medicate the victims.
For a patient to heal the shaman uses any device, which will alter the patient's belief about reality.