Creationists vs Flat Earthers

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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#21  Postby Jie » Apr 10, 2014 11:12 pm



LOL! They actually duped Kate Mulgrew (aka Captain Janeway from Star Trek Voyager) into narrating the thing, after which she immediately made a disclaimer on facebook. You can't make this shit up! :rofl:
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#22  Postby hackenslash » Apr 10, 2014 11:43 pm

Now I'll have to watch it, just for the giggles.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#23  Postby james1v » Apr 11, 2014 12:25 am

Agrippina wrote:My eyes hurt. Why don't these morons get some clever people to design their websites for them? I guess the answer is that would require someone with a knowledge of computers to read their rubbish, and they don't want that do they?



Or, they asked some clever people to do that, and the clever people just pointed at them, and laughed! :point: :)
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#24  Postby Thorham » Apr 11, 2014 12:26 am

Idiots vs Flat Brains :D
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#25  Postby Agrippina » Apr 11, 2014 5:36 am

james1v wrote:
Agrippina wrote:My eyes hurt. Why don't these morons get some clever people to design their websites for them? I guess the answer is that would require someone with a knowledge of computers to read their rubbish, and they don't want that do they?



Or, they asked some clever people to do that, and the clever people just pointed at them, and laughed! :point: :)


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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#26  Postby klazmon » Apr 11, 2014 6:00 am

Silly people. Of course the Earth is flat. Not only flat, it's a circle with four corners. I know because the buybull says so.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#27  Postby Blackadder » Apr 11, 2014 6:39 am

Agrippina wrote:My eyes hurt. Why don't these morons get some clever people to design their websites for them? I guess the answer is that would require someone with a knowledge of computers to read their rubbish, and they don't want that do they?


Websites? People that stupid should not be allowed to use any technology more advanced than a wooden stick and a rock.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#28  Postby Varangian » Apr 11, 2014 8:54 am

Blackadder wrote:
Agrippina wrote:My eyes hurt. Why don't these morons get some clever people to design their websites for them? I guess the answer is that would require someone with a knowledge of computers to read their rubbish, and they don't want that do they?


Websites? People that stupid should not be allowed to use any technology more advanced than a wooden stick and a rock.

No they shouldn't. They could poke out an eye or something.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#29  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 11, 2014 9:07 am

Varangian wrote:
Blackadder wrote:
Agrippina wrote:My eyes hurt. Why don't these morons get some clever people to design their websites for them? I guess the answer is that would require someone with a knowledge of computers to read their rubbish, and they don't want that do they?


Websites? People that stupid should not be allowed to use any technology more advanced than a wooden stick and a rock.

No they shouldn't. They could poke out an eye or something.


Forget the rock as well. Just give them a bucket and sand.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#30  Postby Aca » Apr 12, 2014 2:05 pm

hackenslash wrote:Now I'll have to watch it, just for the giggles.


I watched the trailer and it was more than enough :roll:

Lawrence Krauss and Michio Kaku are in it. Who wanna bet that some creative editing took place?




edit: Krauss on twitter https://twitter.com/LKrauss1/status/453484906069241856

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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#31  Postby charlesag » May 06, 2014 12:49 am

Could you help me answer these questions from my flat earth wacko friend:
People that are living in the Rochester area. can see the Toronto skyline, the tower and buildings on a clear day. The distance is approx.100 miles the declination is 6,600 feet. In essence I am standing on one side of a 6,600 foot hill that is shapped like the curve of earth I can see buildings on the other side 100 miles away. Is that possible ? What is the difference between standing on the seashore at a 6,600 declination at 100 miles and a hill that is 6,600 feet tall? In both cases I have a 6,600 hill or curve of earth to see objects that far away. I am wrong? Is it refraction? Let me know your thoughts.. I have looked into refraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction.) but that involves the sun at sunset and sunrise and atmospheric conditions. In terrestrial refraction the line of sight variance is 8% + or - ,Let know what you thoughts are. Also, I live in So Cal and on a clear early morning as I stand on the shore I can see the coastal lights of Catalina. It is 30 miles away. The declination is 600 feet. Why is it that I see the coastal lights? Shouldn't the 600 feet of declination prevent me from seeing the lights? Is the light and image bending / refracting? Is it an optical illusion? I don't know the answer, could you help explain those questions
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#32  Postby charlesag » May 06, 2014 1:07 am

Could you help me answer these questions from my flat earth wacko friend:
People that are living in the Rochester area. can see the Toronto skyline, the tower and buildings on a clear day. The distance is approx.100 miles the declination is 6,600 feet. In essence I am standing on one side of a 6,600 foot hill that is shapped like the curve of earth I can see buildings on the other side 100 miles away. Is that possible ? What is the difference between standing on the seashore at a 6,600 declination at 100 miles and a hill that is 6,600 feet tall? In both cases I have a 6,600 hill or curve of earth to see objects that far away. I am wrong? Is it refraction? Let me know your thoughts.. I have looked into refraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction.) but that involves the sun at sunset and sunrise and atmospheric conditions. In terrestrial refraction the line of sight variance is 8% + or - ,Let know what you thoughts are. Also, I live in So Cal and on a clear early morning as I stand on the shore I can see the coastal lights of Catalina. It is 30 miles away. The declination is 600 feet. Why is it that I see the coastal lights? Shouldn't the 600 feet of declination prevent me from seeing the lights? Is the light and image bending / refracting? Is it an optical illusion? I don't know the answer, could you help explain those questions
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#33  Postby NineBerry » May 06, 2014 9:48 am

You are misunderstanding what the declination value means. If there are 6600 feet declination on 100 miles, this doesn't mean that there is a mountain of 6600 feet between the two points. In order to calculate the height of the mountain, you have to calculate the declination for half the distance. So between Toronto and Rochester, you need to calculate the declination for 50 miles. That is about 1300 feet. So it is like there is a hill of about 1300 feet between Toronto and Rochester. Now, you as well as the buildings will not be standing directly at the shore line. You have to consider this as well. Then on top of that, there is light refraction of the atmosphere.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#34  Postby Betelgeuse » May 15, 2014 9:20 pm

Durro wrote:I wonder, what do Creationists think about Flat Earthers ?

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What approach would you take to help educate these sorts of people ?



There is a planet full of ignorant people, and you profess concern over those who claim to believe in a flat earth?

There are far more Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov worshippers than flat earthers. Who will try to convert the Sagan and Asimov blind followers, just as one example?

Sagan smiled while pocketing millions of dollars on commercial television, after he condemned commercial television in one of his books. Sagan preached his version of agnostic science, while besmirching Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan. But Sagan never had an unkind word to say about any of his fellow lefties.

Asimov was far more ignorant and biased than Sagan. He was so ignorant in fact that he feared flying and never rode in a commercial jet. Both of their books are replete with scientific ignorance and errors. Inexcusable. Too late to educate them or their sycophants, who will quickly rise to this occasion on their behalf.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#35  Postby Animavore » May 15, 2014 9:22 pm

Yeah, yeah. Heard it all before.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#36  Postby laklak » May 15, 2014 9:29 pm

Yeah, those fucking ignorant asshats, Sagan and Asimov! Going on about Billions and Billions and space ships and stuff. Don't forget that other ignorant twat, Arthur C. Clarke, with his stupid idea for "communication satellites". LOL! How would those "satellites" stay up in the air, huh Mr. Smartypants Scientist? Huh? You ever throw a rock in the air? Know what happens? It falls DOWN, that's what! Dumb fuck scientists.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#37  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 16, 2014 7:52 am

laklak wrote:Yeah, those fucking ignorant asshats, Sagan and Asimov! Going on about Billions and Billions and space ships and stuff. Don't forget that other ignorant twat, Arthur C. Clarke, with his stupid idea for "communication satellites". LOL! How would those "satellites" stay up in the air, huh Mr. Smartypants Scientist? Huh? You ever throw a rock in the air? Know what happens? It falls DOWN, that's what! Dumb fuck scientists.

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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#38  Postby Betelgeuse » May 16, 2014 6:25 pm

laklak wrote:Yeah, those ****ing ignorant asshats, Sagan and Asimov! Going on about Billions and Billions and space ships and stuff. Don't forget that other ignorant twat, Arthur C. Clarke, with his stupid idea for "communication satellites". LOL! How would those "satellites" stay up in the air, huh Mr. Smartypants Scientist? Huh? You ever throw a rock in the air? Know what happens? It falls DOWN, that's what! Dumb **** scientists.


Your ignorance is deep and wide.

1. Never mind spaceships, Isaac Asimov was too afraid of commercial jets to ride in one. What an intergalactic adventurer HE was.

2. Asimov was so enamored of himself that he ignored his own family. Asimov admitted that his typewriter was his best friend.
As a result of his miserable treatment of his family, Asimov's son was prosecuted for having child porn on his computer in Northern California some years ago. I think he would be a fine candidate for your group of "rational" (ha ha ha) skeptics.

3. With respect to your shallow remark on rocks, in one of Asimov's silly books, he claimed that if you threw a rock up in the air, it would continue on forever. I pointed out to the silly man his neglect of, oh, air resistance, for one.

4. "Sex was invented." - Carl Sagan
We should increase the cost of gasoline five cents a gallon to reduce its consumption. (paraphrased) - Carl Sagan
That remark came at a time when gasoline cost much less than a dollar a gallon. How much has the quadrupling of the cost of gasoline decreased consumption? Not as much as Sagan pretended a nickel would do. Nor did Sagan seem to care that such costs fall disproportionately on the poor. He was so rich, why should he have cared.

5. You brought up Arthur C. Clarke, I did not. What other brilliant remarks do you have to add to this profane and "intellectual" rant?
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#39  Postby Animavore » May 16, 2014 6:44 pm

Someone's jelly.
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Re: Creationists vs Flat Earthers

#40  Postby Varangian » May 16, 2014 8:25 pm

OK, who was the clown who said it three times?

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