Doctrine of Creation

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Doctrine of Creation

#1  Postby socratus » Jun 15, 2019 10:42 pm

Doctrine of Creation
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Creation is a process.
This process can be known by math / physical laws.
But before to know how this process is going, it needs
to know something about reference frame in which
this process is going. because to describe fish it needs
water and to describe animals it needs another
reference frame -- land. The reference frame has
great influence on physical process. Specific
reference frame is the common ground of all specific creations.
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The creation began from simple to complex,
from micro-particles world to microworld.
Then it needs to know: in which reference
frame the micro-particles can exist.
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Today we know -- micro-particles exist in CERN / LHC .reference frame.
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Re: Doctrine of Creation

#2  Postby zerne » Jun 16, 2019 1:20 am

I was attempting to tease out some useful information from this, but my main question is why is this a Doctrine?
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#3  Postby zerne » Jun 16, 2019 1:20 am

I was attempting to tease out some useful information from this, but my main question is why is this a Doctrine?
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#4  Postby theropod » Jun 16, 2019 2:11 am

So what about marine mammals, and reptiles, which are surely animals? Doesn’t that put a spanner in the gearbox of a frame of reference?

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#5  Postby laklak » Jun 16, 2019 2:20 am

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#6  Postby Hermit » Jun 16, 2019 2:29 am

Driveby? I've never seen one as slow as this. socratus joined Aug 09, 2017.
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Re: Doctrine of Creation

#7  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 16, 2019 3:46 am

socratus wrote:Doctrine of Creation
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Creation is a process.
This process can be known by math / physical laws.


Wow, that's convenient confounding! How exactly would we know that creation is anything other than a figment of someone's imagination, then?


socratus wrote:But before to know how this process is going, it needs
to know something about reference frame in which
this process is going.


So in the absence of any evidence or way of describing it, we simply assume it exists... basically, we have to have faith in it?


socratus wrote: because to describe fish it needs
water and to describe animals it needs another
reference frame -- land.


Why do we need to describe fish? Why do we need to describe tautological animals?


socratus wrote:The reference frame has
great influence on physical process.


The 'reference frame' - in Biology known as 'the environment' does indeed have a necessary influence on the evolution of species, but that's at a very elementary level, isn't it?


socratus wrote: Specific
reference frame is the common ground of all specific creations.


So the referee evolved in all types of environment concurrently?


socratus wrote:#
The creation began from simple to complex,


Please define 'simple', please define 'complex'.


socratus wrote:from micro-particles world to microworld.


So the creator was a micro-particle?

Or was the creator more complex than a single micro-particle?

If the latter, then 'creation' didn't begin from simple to complex, did it?


socratus wrote:Then it needs to know: in which reference
frame the micro-particles can exist.


A universe?

socratus wrote:#
Today we know -- micro-particles exist in CERN / LHC .reference frame.
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So CERN/LHC are the creators?
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#8  Postby laklak » Jun 16, 2019 3:50 am

Hermit wrote:Driveby? I've never seen one as slow as this. socratus joined Aug 09, 2017.


What's the sound of an Amish drive-by shooting?

Clip clop. Clip clop. BANG! Clip clop. Clip clop.
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Re: Doctrine of Creation

#9  Postby Hermit » Jun 16, 2019 5:33 am

laklak wrote:
Hermit wrote:Driveby? I've never seen one as slow as this. socratus joined Aug 09, 2017.

What's the sound of an Amish drive-by shooting?

Clip clop. Clip clop. BANG! Clip clop. Clip clop.

:lol:

And this one is even slower than the Amish kind. Reminds me of the Baseler snail hunter who was run over by one. He didn't see it coming because it ran over him from behind.
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Re: Doctrine of Creation

#10  Postby Alan C » Jun 17, 2019 10:56 pm

Hermit wrote:Driveby? I've never seen one as slow as this. socratus joined Aug 09, 2017.


Almost two years of lurking and that was the output? An AI running on a Vic 20 might do better.
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