Dover trial - Documentary

mattwilson · #1 by **mattwilson** » Nov 24, 2011 1:47 pm

I'm 20 minutes into this and so far it's good

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/judgment ... -on-trial/

For your enjoyment.

mattwilson · #2 by **mattwilson** » Jan 19, 2012 4:14 pm

Just thought I'd say shame on you lot for not watching this!

z8000783 · #3 by **z8000783** » Jan 19, 2012 4:46 pm

Already seen it.

John

ScholasticSpastic · #4 by **ScholasticSpastic** » Jan 19, 2012 5:04 pm

Already watched it.

mattwilson · #5 by **mattwilson** » Jan 19, 2012 5:06 pm

Then all is right with the world, I prostrate myself before you and beg your forgiveness

Sityl · #6 by **Sityl** » Jan 19, 2012 5:22 pm

I've never watched it.

I'm going to take a guess and say that either:
a) It exposes the incredible intellectual dishonesty and cowardice employed by proponents of ID/Creationism, or
b) It employs myriad logical fallicies in an attempt to show a pre-conceived narrative that sky daddy did it.

Amirite?

z8000783 · #7 by **z8000783** » Jan 19, 2012 6:13 pm

That doesn't mean it isn't worth watching.

John

ScholasticSpastic · #8 by **ScholasticSpastic** » Jan 19, 2012 7:26 pm

Sityl wrote:I've never watched it.

I'm going to take a guess and say that either:
a) It exposes the incredible intellectual dishonesty and cowardice employed by proponents of ID/Creationism, or
b) It employs myriad logical fallicies in an attempt to show a pre-conceived narrative that sky daddy did it.

Amirite?

Watch it. There are some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments. Better yet, read the memorandum opinion from the case. It also has some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments in it: http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller ... er_342.pdf

Sityl · #9 by **Sityl** » Jan 19, 2012 8:30 pm

ScholasticSpastic wrote:
Sityl wrote:I've never watched it.

I'm going to take a guess and say that either:
a) It exposes the incredible intellectual dishonesty and cowardice employed by proponents of ID/Creationism, or
b) It employs myriad logical fallicies in an attempt to show a pre-conceived narrative that sky daddy did it.

Amirite?

Watch it. There are some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments. Better yet, read the memorandum opinion from the case. It also has some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments in it: http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller ... er_342.pdf

Nice.

"The court concluded that creation
science “is simply not science” because it depends upon “supernatural
intervention,” which cannot be explained by natural causes, or be proven through
empirical investigation, and is therefore neither testable nor falsifiable."

:lol:

willhud9 · **#10** by **willhud9** » Jan 20, 2012 1:01 am

I never noticed this thread. This is an awesome documentary!

crank · **#11** by **crank** » Jan 20, 2012 1:57 am

I've seen 3 times, before the OP, been telling people to see it, watch the court scene with Behe, the CdesignProponentsist exposure, the lying towns-folk, and it goes on and on in breathtaking Inanity

iam43 · **#12** by **iam43** » Jan 20, 2012 12:16 pm

I bought the DVD from amazon a while back. Great stuff!

trubble76 · **#13** by **trubble76** » Jan 20, 2012 3:01 pm

ScholasticSpastic wrote:
Sityl wrote:I've never watched it.

I'm going to take a guess and say that either:
a) It exposes the incredible intellectual dishonesty and cowardice employed by proponents of ID/Creationism, or
b) It employs myriad logical fallicies in an attempt to show a pre-conceived narrative that sky daddy did it.

Amirite?

Watch it. There are some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments. Better yet, read the memorandum opinion from the case. It also has some really good laugh-at-crypto-creationist moments in it: http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller ... er_342.pdf

I love the conclusion in that document. It doesn't beat around the bush.

Macros1980 · **#14** by **Macros1980** » Jan 20, 2012 3:32 pm

Funny you should mention it; I watched it myself about 3 or 4 days ago. Loved it.

Shrunk · **#15** by **Shrunk** » Jan 20, 2012 4:14 pm

As I've said before, to me the most positive aspect of this whole episode was the fact that every single creationist school board member who was up for reelection was voted out at the next election. This was even before a verdict was reached in the case, and despite the fact that their opponents had to run as Democrats in a heavily Republican district, and that incumbents usually overwhelmingly win such elections. To me this showed that, despite the polls that consistently show high levels of support for creationism, when average people actually get a close up look at what creationism actually means, they want no part of it.