laserles wrote:

UnderConstruction wrote:I guess this is the same guy then:

http://www.evolver.net/user/laserles

And this:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Laser-Les/1044423365

I hold something...you will never be intelligent enough to understand...

You...hold nothing...& like all the other skeptics here...spew idiocies...

Is English not your first language laserles?

laserles wrote:You-all are the 'leftovers from the deluge' and the 'remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah'.

have-at-it-idiots!

Your insults have already been noted and reported. I take it that you didn't bother to read the forum rules either.

Anyway. Is this honestly intend to start off and proceed? Making unsupported assertions, then insulting anyone who doesn't believe you? You will quickly find that we expect a lot better than that here.

laserles wrote:

Jie wrote:If the Virgin of Guadalupe had a supernatural origin, why does the image posess the artisitc conventions for iconographic art that were prevalent at the time it appeared? Why isn't it a photographic image, rather that an obvious artistic rendition?

If Mr. Bullshit could read...he would understand the image of the Virgin is inscribed with a perfect 3-dimensional hologram process whereby embedded sub-codices complete the message...and the understanding as to from where it came...extraterrestrial.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ages-1.jpg

http://www.sancta.org/eyes.html

(Quote fixed)
Wow that's...what's the word? Oh yes:...Underwhelming.

Two can play the argue through links game:

Skeptophilia: Eyes, images, and miracles

laserles wrote:Certain hologram inscribed artifacts require no psychotropic stimulus to perceive the xenolinguistic communications...

Translation: You don't have to be stoned to 'see' some of this stuff. True: there is mental illness, indoctrination into silly cults and cultist ways of thinking, and anything else that leads to an excessive compulsion to 'see' patterns in things to suit ones beliefs.

laserles wrote:Selective Spectrum Illumination...Spatial Specific Perception...Bi-Lateral Symmetry (to complete certain codex projections & orthographically shift the image position)...are the material factors required to perceive the alien messages inscribed on certain artifacts:

In other words you really have to mess around with those things in order to twist and distort them into appearing to show what you want to believe that show. And even then a heavy dose of pareidolia is required in order to imagine you are really seeing anything other than blurry and vague blobs of nothing in particular.

It is not surprising that faces is one of the most commonly recognised images imagined to be present, as that is what our species is most suited to seeing random patterns as.

laserles wrote:
http://www.impactoptics.com/ProcessMethod.html

The Tilma...Virgin of Guadalupe subjected to Selective Spectrum Illumination:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... gif-11.gif

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... _gif-8.gif

Parallel Research with embedded Micro-Image Sub-Codices discovered within the Hologram Inscribed Artifacts...A Perfect 3-Dimensional Hologram Inscription Process...something well beyond current technological capabilities:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ages-1.jpg

Nothing of note to be found there. Only those who REALLY REALLY WANT to see something are likely to do so.

laserles wrote:
Petro Photoglyph Research...This will eventually be understood as 1st Contact:

Yeah, good luck with that.
Even if that was true; A bloody incompetent "first contact" attempt then.

Petro Photoglyph Research...This will eventually be understood as 1st Contact.

No it won't, because that would be the most insanely stupid way of doing communication, ever.

Indeed, surely the arseraping space lizards would do better than that.

laserles wrote:

UnderConstruction wrote:I guess this is the same guy then:

http://www.evolver.net/user/laserles

And this:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Laser-Les/1044423365

I hold something...you will never be intelligent enough to understand...

Ah yes, the last refuge of those holding bullshit ideas that they cannot sell to those less credulous than themselves. School yard insults to the effect of "nyah nyah, I'm smarter than you ".

You...hold nothing...& like all the other skeptics here...spew idiocies...

Why would I need to "hold" anything? I'm quite content to say I don't know, rather than seeking to fill the void with absurdities.

You-all are the 'leftovers from the deluge' and the 'remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah'.

And you are on the side of the righteous who would toss their daughter out to be raped by the mob then I take it? That was how you got off the naughty list and onto the nice one back in those days, right? Seemed to work out well enough for Lot.

Though perhaps we are seeing here an insight into what crimes you think mankind committed to deserve destruction in the flood and in those cities? A bit of mockery?

Well given all the lampooning of religious that is tolerated these days, perhaps God learnt to let the little things slide?

have-at-it-idiots!

Meh...

Incidentally Les, while I think about it, how could there be lefttovers from these events? was God too incompetent to complete the job? It also raises a few questions about his screening process for those allowed on the Ark I guess, as these were presumably the only leftovers that could exist when the planet was drowned under impossible quantities of water.

Perhaps letting some of the passengers have their tickets seemingly due to nothing more than family connections was unwise?

laserles wrote:

Jie wrote:If the Virgin of Guadalupe had a supernatural origin, why does the image posess the artisitc conventions for iconographic art that were prevalent at the time it appeared? Why isn't it a photographic image, rather that an obvious artistic rendition?

If Mr. Bullshit could read...he would understand the image of the Virgin is inscribed with a perfect 3-dimensional hologram process whereby embedded sub-codices complete the message...and the understanding as to from where it came...extraterrestrial.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ages-1.jpg

http://www.sancta.org/eyes.html

Seriously, is that all you've got? Personal attacks and lame websites that don't answer my simple questions?

By the way, I followed the links. The image you refer to is not inscribed with 3-dimensional-ANYTHING. I've seen perfect images of faces on a stucco wall, a patch of dirt, a bathroom tile, and even my breakfast. Are you ready to claim that my morning toast is sometimes inscribed with 3D images by an extraterrestrial intelligence while it's in the toaster?

Even worse, the images (obtained by analyzing a photograph, not the cloth itself) have been enhanced to show what the author wants us to see, without offering a side by side comparison to the unaltered version. Still smells like bullshit. Nice try, though.

laserles wrote:

As for the 'Transfer of Knowledge' from those Intelligent Designers...we have called GOD:

Hologram Codex Messages Inscribed onto the surfaces of certain artifacts...

IF genuine (and there is considerable doubt), this would argue only for visitation on earth of mortal, sapient beings with the technology to make the images. It is not an argument for God.

The Virgin of Guadalupe...Tilma (a sacred agave fiber artifact):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-11.gif
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-8.gif

You can't debunk this rock hard material evidence...You can't make it go away either!
laserles

You are using this as an argument for God -- a miracle. However, it has nothing to do with the theory of Intelligent Design. That theory deals with the universe as a whole and with particular regularly occurring members of the universe, i.e., living organisms. ID is not about this type of miraclulous intervention in human history.

Of course, the possibility of sapient extraterrestrials also applies here. However, the materials and techniques are consistent with the time period. The "overlayered mask inscription technology" appears to be an artifact and imagination. I for one do not see the "numerous photo detailed images " claimed at the websites.

laserles wrote:
You-all are the 'leftovers from the deluge' and the 'remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah'.

have-at-it-idiots!

WHOO! God Disproved!

If the Deluge AND Soddom & Gomorrah Happened as they said they happened, no one from that can be left over.
If false, therefor untruth, if untruth, therefor not omnoscient, if not omniscient therefor not god.

Wow - a few blobs in grainy photographs of a an old painting look a little bit like human faces. Holy shit it must be irrefutable proof of god.

Laserles, I'm not going to insult you because the rules of the website don't allow it, but your ideas and proof are idiotic. Although I'm fairly sure those ideas are not even original to you. Your belief in idiotic ideas does not reflect well on your thought making faculties. Stick around and learn something.

and we have a new argument, i want this blob to look like people, therefore god.

Pagan stuff is cool- it looks like Tonantzin lives!

What sort of blob are we talking about here; The Blob or Ghostbusters 2?

Xenolinguistic for Skeptics...

Djed...The Ancient Egyptian Architectural Symbol-Structure' projecting from a hologram scribed stone:

http://www.impactoptics.com/images/T010-dijed-1.gif

Backbone?...or Missile Silo?

Could modern skeptics...the be-end-of-all-evolution...have gotten it wrong?

Details:

http://www.impactoptics.com/genesis-2.html

What We Have Here...Is Failure to Communicate!

laserles wrote:Xenolinguistic for Skeptics...

Djed...The Ancient Egyptian Architectural Symbol-Structure' projecting from a hologram scribed stone:

http://www.impactoptics.com/images/T010-dijed-1.gif

Backbone?...or Missile Silo?

Could modern skeptics...the be-end-of-all-evolution...have gotten it wrong?

Details:

http://www.impactoptics.com/genesis-2.html

What We Have Here...Is Failure to Communicate!

What we have here... is an oddly discontinuous style of writing, Random Capitalization, a strange paragraph structure, and links directing to vacuous images. No substance whatsoever in these claims. Oh well.

Lizard_King wrote:

laserles wrote:Xenolinguistic for Skeptics...

Djed...The Ancient Egyptian Architectural Symbol-Structure' projecting from a hologram scribed stone:

http://www.impactoptics.com/images/T010-dijed-1.gif

Backbone?...or Missile Silo?

Could modern skeptics...the be-end-of-all-evolution...have gotten it wrong?

Details:

http://www.impactoptics.com/genesis-2.html

What We Have Here...Is Failure to Communicate!

What we have here... is an oddly discontinuous style of writing, Random Capitalization, a strange paragraph structure, and links directing to vacuous images. No substance whatsoever in these claims. Oh well.

He went to the Shatner School of Diction, surely.