This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

No. It's just a load of supernaturalist, mumbo-jumbo bollocks. Not quite the same thing.

So it isn't even a hunch and a line of reasoning? That means that it isn't even as good as evolution if Robert Byers is right about evolution!

/thread

Reasoning? Lmfao!
Christianity gives me a hunch, a hunched back as I double over*


*insert activity here; choose from laughing or vomiting.


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If it was a hunch it would not be so bad because there was an initial thought.

There is no thinking in xtianity. Just sheep following a bigger sheep whose has not got a clue about anything except what he pulls out of arse.

I wonder when Robert Byers is going to show up here to give us the benefit of his philosophically advanced thoughts.

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Lets see - modified from original post:

Recently I've thought a lot about flaws in the claim that life is the result of god's plan.
That is that since life is shit mostly then it couldn't possibly be a product of a perfect god.

One of the flaws missed by christians and everyone is how the bible and its followers don't actually make conclusions from from lines of reasoning.
The bible constantly used unchallangable edicts, real or not, to then say that the existence of a perfect god is so reasonable and likely that failure to believe is an insult to god leaving him with no choice but to subject you to eternal torture.
In fact in a famous quote creationists have said a critic just needed to demonstrate how macro evolution could be true by the idea of small steps - but having been shown the evidence choose to ignore it.
Always heathens try try to persuade the public or critics that macro evolution is proved by the reality of micro evolutio, hosts of evidence from speciation, the increasingly rich fossil record and advances in genetics.
Change in one creature, like a whale from a land creature, is the evidence that god didn't create life as described in genesis.
Creationist christians always invoke lines of scripture to show why its heresy to believe that all biology has evolved but they don't actually do science or accept the overwhelming evidence presented to them.
Bronze age men started this but I still see it all the time.
Christianity has not been very much a conclusion from use of intelligence.
its been a hunch and lines of scripture at the begining and then forced down the throat of unbelievers and children.
i think I'm very right here.

When I was growing up, I was under the impression that evidence could only go so far and then, when it came to religion, one had to go beyond the evidence and make a "leap of faith". Then I grew up and found that one had to actually ignore the evidence once one was informed of it and believe things that went categorically against the evidence.

So no, a "hunch" would imply that the evidence went in that direction but you had to go with your instincts and make a guess that was a reasonable one based on the known evidence. That is not what Christianity is.

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Good thread. However we need someone to write like Byers. I tried, but failed utterly. I cannot write without having correct grammar and syntax (as much as I can, as English is my 3rd language).

Edit: Did not see the post by Pebble: GOOD WORK... !!!

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Its nice to be a inspiration!

Christianity however is based on the revelation of God by way of the word of God. The bible.
Then with Gods prompting of mans intelligence there is great and powerful reasons in all walks of human experience that confirms the scriptures.
Including why the world speaks English.

Robert Byers wrote:

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Its nice to be a inspiration!

Christianity however is based on the revelation of God by way of the word of God. The bible.
Then with Gods prompting of mans intelligence there is great and powerful reasons in all walks of human experience that confirms the scriptures.
Including why the world speaks English.

That's strange. According to the Bible of which you spoke, your god didn't prod man's intelligence. In fact, he did everything to prevent it and gaining knowledge was a sin.

Also strange that you attribute speaking English to your god prompting man's intelligence. I thought he created all the other languages to prevent man from learning to cooperate and work together because by doing so, they were succesfully building that gravity defying tower that was going to get them up above the clouds where Heaven was floating. Gosh, your holy book specifically says he changed all the languages all at once because otherwise the attempt would have succeeded.

I think you must be talking about a different Bible and a different god from the one I read about. But of course I'm just going by what the stories actually said.

Oh and if all walks of human experience confirms the Bible, how come none of the evidence of science in an age of reason confirms the Bible? I guess your "all human experience" is different than my "all human experience." Somehow, the flaming sword, the talking snake and the magic tree gave me the idea that the Bible has nothing to do with reality. The wholesale slaughters it justified also sort of made me think it was written by Bronze age nomads with a Bronze age war god, not the facelifted god Christians today seem to think the Bible talks about.

Oh well. You have your Bible and I have the one that has the actual words it really says in it I guess.

Robert Byers wrote:

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Its nice to be a inspiration!

Christianity however is based on the revelation of God by way of the word of God. The bible.
Then with Gods prompting of mans intelligence there is great and powerful reasons in all walks of human experience that confirms the scriptures.
Including why the world speaks English.

Inspiring derision appeals to some?

Aca wrote:

Who is this new god of English?

Robert Byers wrote:

Paul Almond wrote:This thread was inspired by this thread
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... 27110.html
which was started by Robert Byers.

Its nice to be a inspiration!

Christianity however is based on the revelation of God by way of the word of God. The bible.

And how do we know it's the word of God? Because the Bible says so. And why should we trust the Bible? Because God says so. And how do we know God says so? Because it's in the Bible. And how do we know we can trust the Bible? Because...

It's reasoning alright, circular reasoning.

Robert Byers wrote:Then with Gods prompting of mans intelligence there is great and powerful reasons in all walks of human experience that confirms the scriptures.
Including why the world speaks English.

Dear Robert, unfortunately basing your claims of the world on your immediate locality is bigoted ignorance. The world most assuredly does not speak English, I can personally attest to that fact having travelled around most of the world.

Further, English did not exist when the Bible was written, nor when this inbred nonsense was first made up by a bunch of bronze-age pastoralists.

Try to get your fantasy to maintain some degree of consistency, even if you can't force-fit it to agree with reality.

Robert Byers wrote:
Including why the world speaks English.

Robert, il mondo non parla solamente inglese.

Ρόμπερτ, ο κόσμος δεν μιλάει μόνο αγγλικά.

Robert, le monde ne parle pas seulement anglais.

ロベルト、世界わ英語しか話していません。

Robert, the world does not speak only English.

I wrote the above sentence in 5 languages, including English. And yes, I do know those 5 languages, with Japanese being studied at the moment.

It's especially emphatic in French!

It is a deliciously lolworthy statement though. And that word is difficult to say in other languages. So...


Right, as usual, nothing.

I suspect Byers imagines that his god speaks English, 'cos the King James version is written in English.

chairman bill wrote:I suspect Byers imagines that his god speaks English, 'cos the King James version is written in English.

But this is a translation from Greek, Latin and Aramaic. The Bible was written in 3 different languages if I remember correctly.