Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#221  Postby laklak » Nov 11, 2018 12:22 am

If Trump gets in in 2020 it's a certainty.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#222  Postby Blackadder » Nov 11, 2018 6:33 am

Fallible wrote:Why are you so interested in the US anyway?


He gets a religious hard-on from the idea that a technologically advanced Western nation where people actually have access to education might start to enact primitive theocratic laws that would put them on a par with shitholes such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#223  Postby Wortfish » Nov 11, 2018 7:32 pm

Fallible wrote:Why are you so interested in the US anyway?

It is the world's pre-eminent nation and its decisions affect all of us.

Americans like their guns, their prayers, their unwanted babies. But they don't like gays.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#224  Postby hackenslash » Nov 11, 2018 7:44 pm

Pre-eminent in what respect?
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#225  Postby Animavore » Nov 11, 2018 8:06 pm

I was reading an article about how applications from worldwide, world-class physics students have dropped significantly in the last couple of years in America. Presumably due to hostility against foreigners. We can presume, I think, similar drops in other fields.

If this carrys on we can expect a drop in real or percieved pre-eminence.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#226  Postby Wortfish » Nov 11, 2018 8:16 pm

hackenslash wrote:Pre-eminent in what respect?


Political, economic, scientific, cultural and military.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#227  Postby aban57 » Nov 11, 2018 8:16 pm

Animavore wrote:I was reading an article about how applications from worldwide, world-class physics students have dropped significantly in the last couple of years in America. Presumably due to hostility against foreigners. We can presume, I think, similar drops in other fields.

If this carrys on we can expect a drop in real or percieved pre-eminence.


And the strong anti-science positions of the entire government perhaps ?
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#228  Postby Wortfish » Nov 11, 2018 8:19 pm

aban57 wrote:
Animavore wrote:I was reading an article about how applications from worldwide, world-class physics students have dropped significantly in the last couple of years in America. Presumably due to hostility against foreigners. We can presume, I think, similar drops in other fields.

If this carrys on we can expect a drop in real or percieved pre-eminence.


And the strong anti-science positions of the entire government perhaps ?


Just evolution and climate change.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#229  Postby aban57 » Nov 11, 2018 8:42 pm

Not "just", no.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#230  Postby Animavore » Nov 11, 2018 8:54 pm

Wortfish wrote:
aban57 wrote:
Animavore wrote:I was reading an article about how applications from worldwide, world-class physics students have dropped significantly in the last couple of years in America. Presumably due to hostility against foreigners. We can presume, I think, similar drops in other fields.

If this carrys on we can expect a drop in real or percieved pre-eminence.


And the strong anti-science positions of the entire government perhaps ?


Just evolution and climate change.


Yes. Those anti-science positions.

You acknowledge.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#231  Postby Fallible » Nov 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Wortfish wrote:
Fallible wrote:Why are you so interested in the US anyway?

It is the world's pre-eminent nation and its decisions affect all of us.

Americans like their guns, their prayers, their unwanted babies. But they don't like gays.


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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#232  Postby OlivierK » Nov 11, 2018 9:17 pm

Wortfish wrote:
aban57 wrote:
Animavore wrote:I was reading an article about how applications from worldwide, world-class physics students have dropped significantly in the last couple of years in America. Presumably due to hostility against foreigners. We can presume, I think, similar drops in other fields.

If this carrys on we can expect a drop in real or percieved pre-eminence.


And the strong anti-science positions of the entire government perhaps ?


Just evolution and climate change.

And all of environmental science, and harm reduction approaches to gun violence, and pretty much any area of science that intersects with policy.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#233  Postby hackenslash » Nov 12, 2018 12:19 am

Wortfish wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Pre-eminent in what respect?


Political, economic, scientific, cultural and military.


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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#234  Postby Wortfish » Nov 12, 2018 12:48 am

hackenslash wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Pre-eminent in what respect?


Political, economic, scientific, cultural and military.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



How many nukes does the US have and the UK does not?
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#235  Postby laklak » Nov 12, 2018 1:03 am

Mi nukes es su nukes. Special relationship and all that, wot wot?
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#236  Postby scherado » Nov 12, 2018 2:08 am

Wortfish wrote:Mike Pence, soon to be the Vice-President of the most powerful nation on earth, is a creationist who regards evolution as just a theory and not a fact:
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I'm NOT a creationist AND agree that biological evolution is not a fact. It's the only reasonable position at this point, that is, there may be developments or revelations toward one explanation or another. This is very reasonable and devoid of any intimations that there was a creator.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#237  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Nov 12, 2018 8:15 am

scherado wrote:
Wortfish wrote:Mike Pence, soon to be the Vice-President of the most powerful nation on earth, is a creationist who regards evolution as just a theory and not a fact:
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I'm NOT a creationist AND agree that biological evolution is not a fact.

Just because your irrational position is not based on creationism, doesn't make it any less irrational.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#238  Postby Fallible » Nov 12, 2018 8:59 am

Wortfish wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
Wortfish wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Pre-eminent in what respect?


Political, economic, scientific, cultural and military.


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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#239  Postby newolder » Nov 12, 2018 9:11 am

scherado wrote:...
I'm NOT a creationist AND agree that biological evolution is not a fact. ...

Did you have 2 parents, are you a clone, a simulant or something other? If the former then you are evidence of the fact of biological evolution.
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Re: Mike Pence: "Evolution is just a theory"

#240  Postby scherado » Nov 12, 2018 12:46 pm

newolder wrote:
scherado wrote:...
I'm NOT a creationist AND agree that biological evolution is not a fact. ...

Did you have 2 parents, are you a clone, a simulant or something other? If the former then you are evidence of the fact of biological evolution.

Really? How did the propagation scheme ("the former") you referenced originate from the primordial soup, goop or ooze in which--we'll presume for my question--contains Earth's first life? (We all know that the theory of biological evolution addresses changes in forms of life, but not the origin of life.)
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