Creationist VP-elect of the USA
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Wortfish wrote:Greyman wrote:Negative. Paley had an explanation for the origin of complex mechanisms that need to be assembled whole from manufactured components, like watches. Watchmakers. He was insisting that the same explanation could/should be used for the origin of living organisms that grow and reproduce themselves, like chickens.
Wel, the watchmaker may be the ultimate explanation for why a watch exists on the heath, but it is not a sufficient explanation that informs us how and why the watch was assembled in the way that it is. That's why his argument is a religious/philosophical one and not a scientific one.
Zadocfish2 wrote:Wortfish wrote:Greyman wrote:Negative. Paley had an explanation for the origin of complex mechanisms that need to be assembled whole from manufactured components, like watches. Watchmakers. He was insisting that the same explanation could/should be used for the origin of living organisms that grow and reproduce themselves, like chickens.
Wel, the watchmaker may be the ultimate explanation for why a watch exists on the heath, but it is not a sufficient explanation that informs us how and why the watch was assembled in the way that it is. That's why his argument is a religious/philosophical one and not a scientific one.
Well, that's totally true. It was not a scientific argument and was more of a philosophical musing. I don't think that the idea has much merit, either way, but I'm happy that you notice that Paley's point was 100% removed from science. You know what science is, and I think that should be acknowledged.
Wortfish wrote:
Not only is he going to the VP, but he is now heading Trump's transition team and will choose all cabinet members and seniour staff, including at the Department of Education. There are rumours that creationists are asking him to impose a moratorium on the teaching of evolution within President Trump's first 100 days.
Right now, she has 50 votes in the Senate, which means that Vice President Mike Pence, a friend of the ultra-wealthy, ultra-conservative DeVos family, will cast the deciding vote in her favor.
Wortfish wrote:I think it is likely that Pence will soon propose executive action to enforce "academic freedom" in public schools nationwide. This means that teachers cannot be censured or fired if they discuss material "critical" of evolution, climate change and other scientific theories. Those schools that do not comply would be at risk of being defunded.
material "critical" of evolution, climate change
Cito di Pense wrote:
Even people who have no education at all and are smart enough can figure out that your fairy stories don't hold together. You have to want to believe that crap.
felltoearth wrote:In your wet dreams. The Dover judgement would prevent any such thing.
Wortfish wrote:felltoearth wrote:In your wet dreams. The Dover judgement would prevent any such thing.
One judge in one court doesn't change anything. Creationism has been taught in American public schools before. At the very least, criticism of Neo-Darwinism will be made a mandatory component of the science class.
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