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Remember Stevebee?

#1  Postby Latimeria » Jun 28, 2010 7:14 pm

Yeah, I just got curious and found him to still be peddling absurdity and retardation as the medicine that will cure you of your "ev-illusions". Here's his latest video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7kJP08fF9w[/youtube]
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#2  Postby Calilasseia » Jun 28, 2010 7:17 pm

Just the preview page on that video tells me that he's completely ignorant of basic biology ...
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#3  Postby Rumraket » Jun 28, 2010 7:25 pm

I watched about one minute and it's so dumb I can't be bothered.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#4  Postby hackenslash » Jun 28, 2010 7:34 pm

Ah, yes. The dentist who was utterly ignorant of the evolution of dentine. I remember him.

Edit: Found a pic.

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Oh, and here's him getting his arse handed to him by a certain blue flutterby:

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtop ... 7#p2017667
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#5  Postby Shrunk » Jun 28, 2010 7:35 pm

I tried to teach him the very elementary concept that common features are spread to various species thru common descent, I really did. But I seem to have failed.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#6  Postby hackenslash » Jun 28, 2010 7:41 pm

Oh, and I miss LucidFlight. :(
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#7  Postby Latimeria » Jun 28, 2010 7:46 pm

Agreed, I just thought it would be a good laugh to peek in on what he's been up to. Anyone unfamiliar with this character who might be considering debunking his internet enterprise of bullshit be warned: He has no understanding of basic biology, takes everything as a personal affront, accuses everyone of being indoctrinated, and when you destroy his arguments with logic and reason he behaves like the knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who refuses to acknowledge his arms are cut off... and at the end of it all you will realize your time would have been better spend slamming a door shut on your genitals.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#8  Postby SPMaximus » Jun 28, 2010 7:48 pm

What the fuck did I just watch? :yuk:
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#9  Postby Shrunk » Jun 28, 2010 7:49 pm

SPMaximus wrote:What the fuck did I just watch? :yuk:


There is a certain weird perversity to many of his videos, isn't there?
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#10  Postby Lizard_King » Jun 28, 2010 8:00 pm

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This is just... beyond stupid. This guy may have evolved to a new level here. Complete and utter failure to grasp the basic principles of biology (thinking about the fact that this guy is a dentist makes my skin crawl...), without the self-righteous blind ignorance of a fundamentalist. This guy, as far as I can tell, is not a deluded creationist, he is just... dumb. He is an idiot in spite of his (sort of) scientific education... I'd almost forgotten those guys existed. :what:
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#11  Postby Calilasseia » Jun 28, 2010 9:27 pm

Latimeria wrote:Agreed, I just thought it would be a good laugh to peek in on what he's been up to. Anyone unfamiliar with this character who might be considering debunking his internet enterprise of bullshit be warned: He has no understanding of basic biology, takes everything as a personal affront, accuses everyone of being indoctrinated, and when you destroy his arguments with logic and reason he behaves like the knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who refuses to acknowledge his arms are cut off... and at the end of it all you will realize your time would have been better spend slamming a door shut on your genitals.


As was made painfully apparent when it became obvious that this 'dentist' was unaware of ground breaking research into the evolution of vertebrate dentition, knowledge of which is being used by various scientists to develop the next generation of dental technologies and therapeutic agents. These scientists are elucidating the underlying genetics driving tooth morphogenesis, including how the mechanics of bmp signalling affect the fate of a proto-tooth in a specific region of the maxillary and mandibular mesenchymes, and devising ways of manipulating this so that, for example, instead of having to make false teeth for people over 65 in future, we'll be able to manipulate tooth morphogenesis in the gum and generate a complete new dentition. The fun part is, these scientists have already been able to modify the outcome of tooth morphogenesis experimentally in laboratory rats, swapping incisors for molars during embryonic development, and their researches also point to some interesting new information with respect to the evolution of vertebrate dentition. I suspect that some of the genetic work being done on the zebrafish is also proving illuminative in this regard. Yet, our 'dentist' was completely ignorant of this research, and tried to hand-wave it away when I presented it to him over at RDF. Presumably he regards this research as, to use that irritating and tiresome phrase so beloved of mythology fetishists, "evolutionist dogma", despite the fact that the hard experimental evidence presented in those papers establishes that we're dealing with the very opposite of "dogma".

I regard this individual as a charlatan, plain and simple.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#12  Postby Alan C » Jun 29, 2010 12:33 am

A dentist that chooses to be pigshit-ignorant about research that pertains to his vocation [and biology in general]?
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#13  Postby Kuia » Jun 30, 2010 8:40 am

Isn't that video a spoof?
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#14  Postby Animavore » Jun 30, 2010 8:54 am

It has nice music.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#15  Postby Made of Stars » Jun 30, 2010 11:16 am

Yes, I wasted some good summer days on him too. The stand-out for me was his argument that 'we' assume that humans and chimpanzees are related, rather than concluding that fact based on the mountain of available evidence. Oh, and when we cited articles from Nature and Science, he responded something along the lines of not caring which "magazine" we cited as evidence.

He's also a reference case in my observation that engineers love untelligent* design. For some reason. :roll:

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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#16  Postby Shrunk » Jun 30, 2010 12:39 pm

Made of Stars wrote:Yes, I wasted some good summer days on him too. The stand-out for me was his argument that 'we' assume that humans and chimpanzees are related, rather than concluding that fact based on the mountain of available evidence. Oh, and when we cited articles from Nature and Science, he responded something along the lines of not caring which "magazine" we cited as evidence.


The defining moment for me was when he denied common ancestry between dogs and wolves, even while acknowledging the existence of dog/wolf hybrids. I don't think even NephilimFree would be that stupid.
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#17  Postby Blitzkrebs » Jun 30, 2010 2:47 pm

hackenslash wrote:
Edit: Found a pic.

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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#18  Postby Mr P » Jun 30, 2010 6:47 pm

Made of Stars wrote:He's also a reference case in my observation that engineers love untelligent* design. For some reason. :roll:

*Not a typo.

I'll admit there does seem to be a vocal minority that likes to use their engineering credentials to pass judgement on matters of biology but please don't tar us all with the same brush. Our reputaion's bad enough as it is :waah:
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#19  Postby hackenslash » Jun 30, 2010 6:57 pm

Reputaion? Is that some new kind of crane? :lol:

It always amazes me. Don't you have to do A Level physics to do a degree in engineering?
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Re: Remember Stevebee?

#20  Postby Mr P » Jun 30, 2010 7:24 pm

hackenslash wrote:Reputaion? Is that some new kind of crane? :lol:

It always amazes me. Don't you have to do A Level physics to do a degree in engineering?

And just wen I thort ouwer repputashun cudnt get eni werserer.

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