Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2701  Postby Agrippina » Jan 17, 2012 2:40 pm

Spearthrower wrote:

I don't have a SCACBE - that's your model, not mine.


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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2702  Postby Agrippina » Jan 17, 2012 2:44 pm

Agrippina wrote:It would help if Rodcarty actually kept off up with the thread instead of disappearing for days at a time and then discussing posts that are long forgotten, and then answering them with "presupposition" and "fallacy of my own invented interpretation of a fallacy" I agree. SO to Rodcarty, just ignore all the previous pages and please reply to only the last two, let's get back on track or you'll end up fallaciating yourself.



Just reposting this without the typo.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2703  Postby Sovereign » Jan 18, 2012 5:55 am

I think he's done with the thread. I'm hoping he's going through self discovery and learning. I'm hoping.
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#2704  Postby Agrippina » Jan 18, 2012 7:29 am

No I think he's had enough of us. :lol:
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2705  Postby THWOTH » Jan 18, 2012 9:24 pm

I think he dipped out before he had to deal with the issue of an immaterial material god.
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#2706  Postby Made of Stars » Jan 19, 2012 12:47 pm

I'm hoping the lack of biblical support for the YEC position sent him off.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2707  Postby Rumraket » Jan 19, 2012 12:57 pm

THWOTH wrote:I think he dipped out before he had to deal with the issue of an immaterial material god.

If he truly has left us forever, I still wouldn't speculate that it was any single issue in particular that made him leave. It might simply be the case that he felt it was a waste of his time, since it was just him against several of us and he got further and further behind.
One can of course hope that somewhere along the way he at least came to consider many of the issues discussed here at a greater depth.
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#2708  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 19, 2012 1:12 pm

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One can of course hope that somewhere along the way he at least came to consider many of the issues discussed here at a greater depth.


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Yeah right.

I expect he's still taking that long shower necessary to rid himself of the evil he's waded through here.
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#2709  Postby DaveScriv » Jan 19, 2012 1:43 pm

Rumraket wrote:
THWOTH wrote:I think he dipped out before he had to deal with the issue of an immaterial material god.

If he truly has left us forever, I still wouldn't speculate that it was any single issue in particular that made him leave. It might simply be the case that he felt it was a waste of his time, since it was just him against several of us and he got further and further behind.
One can of course hope that somewhere along the way he at least came to consider many of the issues discussed here at a greater depth.


To be fair to Rod, he might just be occupied with coping with the extreme (well, it seems extreme to me in the UK) weather they're having at his home town at present.
Current temperature @ Whitehorse, Yukon (where its 5 am); -37 degrees C
Expected 'high' this afternoon: -22 C

Hope you're managing OK Rod. :thumbup:
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#2710  Postby THWOTH » Jan 19, 2012 2:25 pm

Rumraket wrote:
THWOTH wrote:I think he dipped out before he had to deal with the issue of an immaterial material god.

If he truly has left us forever, I still wouldn't speculate that it was any single issue in particular that made him leave. It might simply be the case that he felt it was a waste of his time, since it was just him against several of us and he got further and further behind.

True. His style was perfectly suited to a formal debate though - I suggested it in a PM but he never read it. :dunno:

Rumraket wrote:One can of course hope that somewhere along the way he at least came to consider many of the issues discussed here at a greater depth.

Perhaps. But his commitment to his ideology was very strong. As we know, that is very hard to shake off or reason away, especially in one who is willing to actively engage to strengthen that commitment by refuting a horde of annoying rationalists. ;)
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2711  Postby Onyx8 » Jan 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Indeed, and some of the things he was forced to dispute to support his streams of assertions were so inane it boggles the mind.

Amazing indeed for someone who is a professional electrician and programmer.
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#2712  Postby hackenslash » Jan 20, 2012 1:51 pm

Perhaps he's spending his time learning how to correctly identify logical fallacies, so that he doesn't look so silly spurting the name of recognised fallacies where they simply don't apply. I doubt it, but a man can dream...
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#2713  Postby halucigenia » Jan 21, 2012 12:34 pm

I have been holding back on my responses for quite some time now to give Rod the chance to catch up. Do you think that he will ever catch up or has he just given up?
He only seems to be up to about Xmas currently.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2714  Postby Made of Stars » Jan 21, 2012 12:55 pm

I'd say not. See if he comes back at all, and at what point in time he picks up.
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Re: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2715  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Feb 14, 2012 4:27 pm

rodcarty wrote:
Rumraket wrote:
rodcarty wrote:
Rumraket wrote:
You'll have to reference the dating of the wood before any judgement can be made.


The fossilized wood was found in the Marlstone Rock bed in the UK. Index fossils found there were interpreted by evolutionary scientists to date this rock in the Jurassic, but because there was wood there as well, a creation scientist sent samples of the wood out for carbon-14 tests. The samples were sent to two different labs. The labs were not told what age range to expect, nor were they told where they came from so as to not bias the tests. The two labs' results agreed quite well with each other but of course wildly disagreed with the millions of years assumed by the evolutionary interpretation. The estimate according to the Jurassic period was 189 million years, the results of the carbon-14 testing was in the range of about 20,000 to 29,000 years.

A.A. Snelling, Geological conflict: Young radiocarbon date for ancient fossil wood challenges fossil dating, Creation Ex Nihilo 22(2):44–47, 2000. (Now called Journal of Creation)
http://creation.com/geological-conflict

ROFL. You're asking me to trust a source with this statement in their mission:
By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.

Suffice it to say, to claim adherence to that statement immediately destroys any credibility Snelling had.


So in your opinion anything that doesn't support evolution has automatically lost all credibility. Why are we even bothering to try to have a discussion then?


This is a straw-man Rod.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2716  Postby Onyx8 » Feb 14, 2012 4:34 pm

He's long gone, having provided no answers whatever for his rigid and foolish positions.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2717  Postby Sovereign » Feb 14, 2012 8:15 pm

I saw activity in this thread earlier and thought "He's back!!" What a tease... :doh: I guess I committed a presupposition fallacy.
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2718  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Feb 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Onyx8 wrote: having provided no answers whatever for his rigid and foolish positions.


Just like another person on this subpart of the forum. ;)
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Re: Split from: RADIONUCLIDE DATING IS RIGOROUS

#2719  Postby Paul » Feb 14, 2012 9:13 pm

:thumbup:

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#2720  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Feb 14, 2012 9:39 pm

Paul wrote::thumbup:

Post #967 in this thread

hackenslash wrote:We should introduce you to Stevebee; you'd get on famously.


Damn ninja-ed :waah:
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