This image shows the acceptance of evolution in 34 countries (I don't know on which basis the countries were selected, however). As we all see, the US is pretty poor in this regard.

I wonder if there is any statistics on how US states differ, i.e how many in US states that accept evolution. I'd suspect that a higher proportion of New Yorkers accept it than Mississippians, but that's just a theory...

That's why I like Iceland and Scandinavia...

Well, another reason to like these places, anyway.

I wonder how many of those who said 'false' in the UK, France, Germany, etc., were Muslims?
(rather than fundie Christians, as presumably most were in the US)

I wonder how Canada did? They're not on the list.

Mazille wrote:Jesus fucking Christ. Austria isn't looking too good either. Where's that graph from?

It's from here. That website in turn obtained the graph from a paper submitted to Science by Eugenie Scott and other co-authors, which is the subject of the article covered thereupon.

OP: I sure can't find any stats.

Mazille wrote:Jesus fucking Christ. Austria isn't looking too good either.

Nor is Slovenia FFS, a quarter of people here think ToE is wrong! It wouldn't be so bad if they were only "not sure", it's easy to be unsure about stuff that you only vaguely remember from school (and that you never really understood), but this stupid certainty is a very good reason for worry

@DaveScriv: We have few Muslims here, most evo-deniers must be Catholic, which is weird considering that the Catholic church officially accepts evolution (with some tweaks when it comes to human evolution, but still ...).

No NZ or Aus there either.

Some stats for Canada, Australia and New Zealand can be found here.

Calilasseia wrote:Some stats for Canada, Australia and New Zealand can be found here.

Fascinating, cheers.

DaveScriv wrote:I wonder how many of those who said 'false' in the UK, France, Germany, etc., were Muslims?
(rather than fundie Christians, as presumably most were in the US)

With reference to the UK in particular (since I'm in the UK, and have particular concern about what happens here) - I'd be interested to know if any polls have asked the more direct question of UK Muslims, namely - what proportion of Muslims in UK think evolution is false, and how many of them think god directly made man instead?

lordshipmayhem wrote:I wonder how Canada did? They're not on the list.

I think Robert Byers is still arguing with the survey teams from Canada so the results aren't in yet.

The criticisms and the opinions that oppose evolution and company come from a foundation of an historic alternative.
In short the bible. Muslims a little too but thats different.
Then the bible belief comes from those who historically most believed in the bible. That is the evangelical, now called, wing of protestantism.
Then this added by the high intelligence of the English speaking world, relative to others, leads to the great and satisfying truth of creationism being highly successful in North America.
As we would see it IT is as it should be. the truth should most be discovered and untruth most resisted by the most advanced people.
A line of reasoning.
Evolution should cut its losses and start over in Timbukto.

Robert Byers wrote:Then this added by the high intelligence of the English speaking world, relative to others.

Care to back up this claim, Mr Byers?

Robert Byers wrote:The criticisms and the opinions that oppose evolution and company come from a foundation of an historic alternative.
In short the bible. Muslims a little too but thats different.
Then the bible belief comes from those who historically most believed in the bible. That is the evangelical, now called, wing of protestantism.
Then this added by the high intelligence of the English speaking world, relative to others, leads to the great and satisfying truth of creationism being highly successful in North America.
As we would see it IT is as it should be. the truth should most be discovered and untruth most resisted by the most advanced people.
A line of reasoning.
Evolution should cut its losses and start over in Timbukto.

You're absolutely right. Accepting that environmental pressures can have an effect on the distribution of genes in gene pools and lead to accumulative changes over time is clearly absurd. A supernatural entity for which there is no sufficient evidence needs to be invoked to explain life's variety in a rational manner.

Due to this incredible piece of wisdom, a strong case can now be made to replace biology textbooks with bibles.

Ok, so there are no such statistics, it seems. That's a bit unfortunate.

IanS wrote:

DaveScriv wrote:I wonder how many of those who said 'false' in the UK, France, Germany, etc., were Muslims?
(rather than fundie Christians, as presumably most were in the US)

With reference to the UK in particular (since I'm in the UK, and have particular concern about what happens here) - I'd be interested to know if any polls have asked the more direct question of UK Muslims, namely - what proportion of Muslims in UK think evolution is false, and how many of them think god directly made man instead?

Depends on what you define as "Muslim". When Islamic organizations in Sweden wants something (like legalization of Halal slaughter), they invoke all people from Muslim countries as "Muslims", despite that far from all of them are religious, and indeed, you can find some of the most anti-Islam people among them.

However, among serious practicing Muslims (as opposed to merely cultural Muslims), I'd say that creationism is pretty widespread. Just look at this fatwa, the Quran trumps any scientific evidence.

Robert Byers wrote:
Evolution should cut its losses and start over in Timbukto.

Funnily enough, Timbuktu used to boast one of the most prestigious theological universities in the Muslim world (incidentally, this was also one of the first universities in the world). It was a flourishing centre of scholarship and written tradition, to the extent that it has earned epithets such as "Athens of Africa" or "Sudanese Rome".

Care to try again?