Templeton Foundation comes clean

Oeditor · #1 by **Oeditor** » Jan 07, 2012 4:37 pm

The Templeton Foundation has revealed its true colours and is pumping a quarter of its annual grant money into the ID-loving Biola University (aka Bible Institute of Los Angeles). It's paying folk to answer "important questions facing Christianity in the 21st Century.” No doubt they will only be set on if they sign up to Biola's fundamentalist creed first.
http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/templeton-funds-dubious-center-for-christian-thought-at-biola/#comment-172676

Spearthrower · #2 by **Spearthrower** » Jan 07, 2012 5:32 pm

The only surprise is that it's caused surprise!

Calilasseia · #3 by **Calilasseia** » Jan 08, 2012 6:46 am

This, of course is the very same Biola "University" that was founded by one of the original authors of The Fundamentals, the anti-evolution diatribe that fuelled American creationism in its pre-corporate era. and whose Talbot School of Theology is the home of none other than everyone's favourite apologist for genocide, William Lane Craig.

Oeditor · #4 by **Oeditor** » Jan 08, 2012 1:45 pm

Yes, the same one that introduced the oxymoronic "Phillip E. Johnson Award for Liberty and Truth" in 2004
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson

Atheistoclast · #5 by **Atheistoclast** » Jan 30, 2012 5:10 pm

I wonder if I could do a PhD in evolutionary biology at Biola?

mattwilson · #6 by **mattwilson** » Jan 30, 2012 5:14 pm

Atheistoclast wrote:I wonder if I could do a PhD in evolutionary biology at Biola?

Based upon your past posts, I doubt you could do an GCSE in human biology :coffee:

Atheistoclast · #7 by **Atheistoclast** » Jan 30, 2012 5:17 pm

mattwilson wrote:
Atheistoclast wrote:I wonder if I could do a PhD in evolutionary biology at Biola?

Based upon your past posts, I doubt you could do an GCSE in human biology

And, yet, I have published 4 peer-reviewed papers on biology.

chairman bill · #8 by **chairman bill** » Jan 30, 2012 5:19 pm

And the feedback from reviewers for your latest offering makes me wonder about the quality of those journals that did publish your work.

james1v · #9 by **james1v** » Jan 30, 2012 5:35 pm

Fook me! I would answer any questions they had, for £4.50!

Atheistoclast · **#10** by **Atheistoclast** » Jan 30, 2012 5:42 pm

chairman bill wrote:And the feedback from reviewers for your latest offering makes me wonder about the quality of those journals that did publish your work.

It wasn't a scientific paper. It was one related to education and science policy.

Spearthrower · **#11** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 30, 2012 6:35 pm

Atheistoclast wrote:
mattwilson wrote:
Atheistoclast wrote:I wonder if I could do a PhD in evolutionary biology at Biola?

Based upon your past posts, I doubt you could do an GCSE in human biology

And, yet, I have published 4 peer-reviewed papers on biology.

You can see what the motivation is for these stunts.

falconjudge · **#12** by **falconjudge** » Jan 30, 2012 8:49 pm

Yeah, you had peer-reviewed papers. You showed us exactly one, and it was roasted. Stop waving failures around as credentials.

Spearthrower · **#13** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 31, 2012 2:50 am

falconjudge wrote:Yeah, you had peer-reviewed papers. You showed us exactly one, and it was roasted. Stop waving failures around as credentials.

Oh he's got some others - the problem is that they are published in non-specialist journals, and not remotely supportive of any of his claims. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think Joe's trying to climb a ladder. He's publishing to get some exposure, so that he can try to wedge creationism into science.

Atheistoclast · **#14** by **Atheistoclast** » Jan 31, 2012 3:16 am

Spearthrower wrote:
falconjudge wrote:Yeah, you had peer-reviewed papers. You showed us exactly one, and it was roasted. Stop waving failures around as credentials.

Oh he's got some others - the problem is that they are published in non-specialist journals, and not remotely supportive of any of his claims. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think Joe's trying to climb a ladder. He's publishing to get some exposure, so that he can try to wedge creationism into science.

I am trying to get an explosive fifth published soon. It was accepted several months ago, but there seems to be a delay.

I regard it as nothing short of an atomic bomb that can blow Darwinism apart.

Just A Theory · **#15** by **Just A Theory** » Jan 31, 2012 3:20 am

Atheistoclast wrote:
I am trying to get an explosive fifth published soon. It was accepted several months ago, but there seems to be a delay.

I regard it as nothing short of an atomic bomb that can blow Darwinism apart.

Do be sure to link it here in the Biology sub-forum when it is available. Until that time, I shall maintain a proper attitude of scientific skepticism.

Atheistoclast · **#16** by **Atheistoclast** » Jan 31, 2012 3:23 am

Just A Theory wrote:
Atheistoclast wrote:
I am trying to get an explosive fifth published soon. It was accepted several months ago, but there seems to be a delay.

I regard it as nothing short of an atomic bomb that can blow Darwinism apart.

Do be sure to link it here in the Biology sub-forum when it is available. Until that time, I shall maintain a proper attitude of scientific skepticism.

Of course. I have sent the publisher an email today to hurry things up.

Xeno · **#17** by **Xeno** » Jan 31, 2012 3:40 am

In which journal is it to be published? I wouldn't want to miss it. :popcorn:

falconjudge · **#18** by **falconjudge** » Jan 31, 2012 4:16 am

Yes, Clastie. You are the one most brilliant scientist ever, who will single-handedly dismantle 75 years of independantly verifiable research and experimentation, with one paper. And turn a new leaf in Biology, in which we will be compelled to forget every major biological discovery made in the last century.

And I thought I was arrogant.

Spearthrower · **#19** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 31, 2012 5:17 am

Atheistoclast wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
falconjudge wrote:Yeah, you had peer-reviewed papers. You showed us exactly one, and it was roasted. Stop waving failures around as credentials.

Oh he's got some others - the problem is that they are published in non-specialist journals, and not remotely supportive of any of his claims. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think Joe's trying to climb a ladder. He's publishing to get some exposure, so that he can try to wedge creationism into science.

I am trying to get an explosive fifth published soon. It was accepted several months ago, but there seems to be a delay.

I regard it as nothing short of an atomic bomb that can blow Darwinism apart.

I think the sky will fall on our heads first, Joe - we've heard it all before.

z8000783 · **#20** by **z8000783** » Jan 31, 2012 7:24 am

Atheistoclast wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
falconjudge wrote:Yeah, you had peer-reviewed papers. You showed us exactly one, and it was roasted. Stop waving failures around as credentials.

Oh he's got some others - the problem is that they are published in non-specialist journals, and not remotely supportive of any of his claims. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think Joe's trying to climb a ladder. He's publishing to get some exposure, so that he can try to wedge creationism into science.

I am trying to get an explosive fifth published soon. It was accepted several months ago, but there seems to be a delay.

I regard it as nothing short of an atomic bomb that can blow Darwinism apart.

Then you can get your Mum to make some space on the mantelpiece and book your flight to Stockholm right now I think.

John