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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2621  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 20, 2011 2:38 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:
byofrcs wrote:In science, an observation, a prediction and reproducible results silences the critics. Why are they not silent here Gary ? .

From my experience, the critics here are not interested in observation, predictions and reproducible results, they only want to bully creationists or anyone who takes the Theory of Intelligent Design seriously. That's why the recent reply that explains how grid/place cells fit into the model received no constructive criticism at all, just the usual personal attacks, defamation.



You outright ignored all rebuttals from the outset to your erroneous assertions and simply reasserted them. Anyone who's had the patience to remain conversing with you until now could well be considered to be acting irrationally anyway.

And personally, I consider this post:

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creat ... l#p1122070

An attempt to silence your wibble's critics by emotionally blackmailing and slandering them.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2622  Postby theropod » Dec 20, 2011 2:41 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Cyber-bullying
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying

Cyber-bullying is the use of the Internet and related technologies to harm other people, in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner.[1] As it has become more common in society, particularly among young people, legislation and awareness campaigns have arisen to combat it.


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Absolute bullshit Gary. You have not been bullied here. If you think you have then provide links to the posts that you consider to be bullying. Failure to do so will expose this claim as yet more fabrication on your part. Frankly I find your as yet unsupported, and I think unsupportable, implication offensive.

Your fucking idiotic assertions, which have been trashed at every turn, are not exempt from ridicule. If you consider having your empty assertions exposed for what they are as bulling then there is a much deeper issue that needs to be addressed. Some folks would see this latest claim of bullying as nothing but yet more of the series of unsupported assertion of which your posts reek.

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Definition

The term "cyberbullying" was first coined and defined by Bill Belsey, as "the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."[1]

Cyber-bullying has subsequently been defined as "when the Internet, cell phones or other devices are used to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person".[2] Other researchers use similar language to describe the phenomenon.[3][4]


This is another example of you being unable, or unwilling, to set your "work" aside from your person. Your fucking unsupported claims are not only open to rebuttal but are an invitation to critical review. The gawd damned thread title is an invitation for such review. Have you forgotten this crucial fact? Again, up until such time as you can point out where your person has been bullied I see this post as nothing but distracting, and offensive, off-topic bullshit.

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Cyber-bullying can be as simple as continuing to send e-mail to someone who has said they want no further contact with the sender, but it may also include threats, sexual remarks, pejorative labels (i.e., hate speech), ganging up on victims by making them the subject of ridicule in forums, and posting false statements as fact aimed at humiliation.


You came here of your own free will. You stay of your own free will. You present absolute bullshit of your own free will. You post stupid unrelated music videos of your own free will. These are the things you do that I consider weapons grade bullshit. To now read you claim that we are bullying you would be laughable if it were not so fucking very offensive. Besides, the off-topic nature of your post is yet another example of your lack of ability to support your bullshit assertions. Feeling as if you are being bullied isn't germane to anything. If you feel this strongly open a thread in feedback and voice your concerns. File reports on the posts that you see as bullying. This thread isn't the venue for that sort of thing.

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Cyber-bullies may disclose victims' personal data (e.g. real name, address, or workplace/schools) at websites or forums or may pose as the identity of a victim for the purpose of publishing material in their name that defames or ridicules them. Some cyber-bullies may also send threatening and harassing emails and instant messages to the victims, while other post rumors or gossip and instigate others to dislike and gang up on the target.


You use your real name in a public forum. You disclose personal info none of us ask for. You make all sorts of personal remarks about yourself and YOU invite folks to make this all personal. Talking about your lack of money, the loss of the trackway and all the other personal bullshit is all on YOU Gary. Not one member here has ever bothered to post these personal issues of yours. Why should anyone do so? You have provided all this information. If you don't want people to talk about these matters perhaps you should shut the fuck up about them.

As far as I can tell you WANT this to be a personal issue and cannot make a distinction between your assertions and your person. Don't blame the forum for this.

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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2623  Postby Gary S. Gaulin » Dec 20, 2011 2:53 pm

None have even addressed the scientific issues. That's why there are only the usual insults following the last presentation of grid and place cells, instead of discussion on why or why not it would work.

I have to go to other forums for a constructive discussion. This one is simply a bully-forum. What happens here, in comparison to other places, only proves it.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2624  Postby theropod » Dec 20, 2011 3:09 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:None have even addressed the scientific issues. That's why there are only the usual insults following the last presentation of grid and place cells, instead of discussion on why or why not it would work.

I have to go to other forums for a constructive discussion. This one is simply a bully-forum. What happens here, in comparison to other places, only proves it.


Bullshit. Report the insults. Provide a link to these alleged insults. No one is stopping you. Could it be that you are completely fucking wrong and rather than address the problems your with your notions you pull this distracting, and completely off-topic, bullshit?

Yes, by all means go back to talk rational and engage in "constructive discussion". Remember that some of us here often visit there where REAL insults are allowed. You know full well that you are treated with far more respect here than over there. Fucking hell!

Your failure to provide examples of insults and bullying only further establishes that you are making yet more unsupported assertions and taking the thread off topic in order to avoid having to address the very real problems with your notions. We've all seen this song and dance, and whether you can deal with it or not we can see through the smoke screen.

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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2625  Postby Gary S. Gaulin » Dec 20, 2011 3:30 pm

theropod wrote:Yes, by all means go back to talk rational and engage in "constructive discussion". Remember that some of us here often visit there where REAL insults are allowed. You know full well that you are treated with far more respect here than over there. Fucking hell!

I was not talking about Talk Rational. I was talking about science education forums, FractalForums, Intelligence related forum, and other places where math/science is taken seriously.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2626  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 20, 2011 3:35 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:
theropod wrote:Yes, by all means go back to talk rational and engage in "constructive discussion". Remember that some of us here often visit there where REAL insults are allowed. You know full well that you are treated with far more respect here than over there. Fucking hell!

I was not talking about Talk Rational. I was talking about science education forums, FractalForums, Intelligence related forum, and other places where math/science is taken seriously.


I don't believe your claims are taken seriously in any science format.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2627  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 20, 2011 3:37 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:None have even addressed the scientific issues. That's why there are only the usual insults following the last presentation of grid and place cells, instead of discussion on why or why not it would work.

I have to go to other forums for a constructive discussion. This one is simply a bully-forum. What happens here, in comparison to other places, only proves it.


So go on then, explain why you're here.

That rather puts a hole in your epic narrative, doesn't it?
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2628  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 20, 2011 3:45 pm

Incidentally, page 2 was when I stopped taking your claims to be addressing scientific issues seriously:

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/post9 ... cy#p943184


Never once retracted. You probably still believe you are right. You probably still tell people that falsehood. Scientific knowledge doesn't progress by struggling to make something work when it's so obviously failing, it's about honestly and openly looking to falsify erroneous ideas. When you misrepresent an article to force-fit it to meet your ideological preconceptions, why should I trust any of your assertions that I don't have the tools to independently inquire into. It's about credibility Gary, and you sacrificed yours a long time ago. You made your bed, now lie in it.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2629  Postby jaygray » Dec 20, 2011 4:57 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Thank you Darkchilde for demonstrating how moderators of this forum regularly encourage and support cyber-bullying.


You shamefully misrepresent of David L Heiserman and his work; you LIE about BEAM, You turn quote-mining and general misrepresentation into a Zen-like discipline; and you obscenely compare people who disgree with you with the perpetrators of 9/11, and / or with Stalin's purges.

Want me to provide the links back to these exampes on this very thread? It can be arranged, no problem.

Your arguments fall still-born from your own keyboard. It is disgusting to watch. :nono:

You sir are in no position to even mention cyber-bullying here with a straight face, nor can you credibly take the moral high-ground with anyone.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2630  Postby Gary S. Gaulin » Dec 20, 2011 9:29 pm

jaygray wrote:You shamefully misrepresent of David L Heiserman and his work; you LIE about BEAM, You turn quote-mining and general misrepresentation into a Zen-like discipline;

This is another excellent example of defamatory personal attacks from a cyber-bully. It's no wonder why they never once backed up these accusations with evidence, they really have none...
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2631  Postby Just A Theory » Dec 20, 2011 9:48 pm

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:Thank you Darkchilde for demonstrating how moderators of this forum regularly encourage and support cyber-bullying.


Yeah, stop it Darkchilde, you big bully!

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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2632  Postby ElDiablo » Dec 20, 2011 10:30 pm

I think I've spent too much time reading creationist and IDers misrepresent science and twist meanings, here's an attempt at their own game
Bull-y-ing - the act of pointing out the errors in a creationists or IDers argumements and labeling then as bullshit.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2633  Postby Just A Theory » Dec 21, 2011 1:59 am

So Gary, is there a link on that website to the trauma caused by misguided pseudoscientists spamming message boards with worthless woo?
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2634  Postby Spearthrower » Dec 21, 2011 2:59 am

Spearthrower wrote:Omfg Gary, that's just wet.

If you think you're being bullied, there's a red X at the top right of your page. Click it and you'll find that all these nasty bullies go away. That doesn't happen with real bullying, does it?
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2635  Postby willhud9 » Dec 21, 2011 3:22 am

Finally a reminder - never try to mediate, negotiate, conciliate or otherwise deal with a bully or stalker yourself. Always remember Rule #1: don't respond, don't interact and don't engage.


Perhaps you should practice your own complaints and follow rule #1. Derp.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2636  Postby Fenrir » Dec 21, 2011 3:38 am

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Well done Gary, your impression of paranoia is faultless. Unless it's not an act, in which case I'd seek help if I was you.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2637  Postby ElDiablo » Dec 21, 2011 3:41 am

I think what Gary dislikes most is being ignored - hence the bullying accusation. It's his cry for attention.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2638  Postby byofrcs » Dec 21, 2011 8:42 am

Gary S. Gaulin wrote:
byofrcs wrote:In science, an observation, a prediction and reproducible results silences the critics. Why are they not silent here Gary ? .

From my experience, the critics here are not interested in observation, predictions and reproducible results, they only want to bully creationists or anyone who takes the Theory of Intelligent Design seriously. That's why the recent reply that explains how grid/place cells fit into the model received no constructive criticism at all, just the usual personal attacks, defamation.


Why should you care though in the end ? This is not the first forum that you've not got much traction on....

http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=25430
http://www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/ ... r-review-1
http://www.islamicboard.com/health-scie ... aulin.html (ha ha lol an Islamic board - you really know how to waste your time).

Remember that you came here. You posted here asking for an informal review. People gave you an informal review. You didn't like this and wanted something more formal. I think people said that you should then publish it in a formal journal so it can get refereed by subject matter experts (though on this forum I think there are people who are good in the field of biology/genetics/chemistry/computing).

We don't really know what you are after. If the theory is flawed then dump it and move on (or commercialise it into "kits" and sell it as toys ). In the end - it's not science but it could still have entertainment value.
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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

#2639  Postby Durro » Dec 21, 2011 11:04 am


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Re: Theory of Intelligent Design

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