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Probably because it made no sense to him and was unaware of the questioner’s ulterior motive.Ciwan wrote: I have no idea why the professional geologist did not comment on that part of the question at all.
Spearthrower wrote:Ciwan wrote:
I always thought the Earth's crust was stabilized (needs stabilizing since it is basically floating on Magma) by the nearly-uniform-equal pull of Gravity from all sides.
The crust is not floating on magma, nor is it really floating on anything.
The layer underneath the crust is called the upper mantle, and it is predominantly solid and rigid. The crust needs stabilising like the skin on an apple needs stabilising!
JoeB wrote:Spearthrower wrote:Ciwan wrote:
I always thought the Earth's crust was stabilized (needs stabilizing since it is basically floating on Magma) by the nearly-uniform-equal pull of Gravity from all sides.
The crust is not floating on magma, nor is it really floating on anything.
The layer underneath the crust is called the upper mantle, and it is predominantly solid and rigid. The crust needs stabilising like the skin on an apple needs stabilising!
Is this the case? I have never heard that the mantle was solid, but mostly magma flowing slowly from the earth's hot core to the surface and back again (thereby pushing the continental plates around). If the mantel hadn't some viscosity it couldn't create mantle convection right?
The mantle is a part of a terrestrial planet or other rocky body large enough to have differentiation by density. The interior of the Earth, similar to the other terrestrial planets, is chemically divided into layers. The mantle is a highly viscous layer between the crust and the outer core. Earth's mantle is a rocky shell about 2,900 km (1,800 mi) thick[1] that constitutes about 84% of Earth's volume.[2] It is predominantly solid and encloses the iron-rich hot core, which occupies about 15% of Earth's volume.[2][3] Past episodes of melting and volcanism at the shallower levels of the mantle have produced a thin crust of crystallized melt products near the surface, upon which we live.[4] Information about structure and composition of the mantle either result from geophysical investigation or from direct geoscientific analyses on Earth mantle derived xenoliths.
The top of the mantle is defined by a sudden increase in seismic velocity, which was first noted by Andrija Mohorovičić in 1909; this boundary is now referred to as the "Mohorovičić discontinuity" or "Moho".[10][13] The uppermost mantle plus overlying crust are relatively rigid and form the lithosphere, an irregular layer with a maximum thickness of perhaps 200 km. Below the lithosphere the upper mantle becomes notably more plastic
Ciwan wrote:Let's say there were no mountains on Earth, and it was all flat ground (talking about the stuff above sea level) .... How would that affect Earth's crust overall ?
That page is an excellent answer to the first part of the question "When did we first find out that mountains had roots" but in no way shows that the second part "and that these mountains stabilised the earth" is even meaningful and therefore cannot justifiably be used by Muslim fundies in the way I suspect that it is repeatedly used by them
Ciwan wrote:True JoeB, and also in all the documentaries I've seen, they always show the Mantle as a very thick hot soup-like thing (Molten rock really), moving from the centre outwards then back in towards the centre (convention).
JoeB wrote:I have never heard that the mantle was solid, but mostly magma flowing slowly from the earth's hot core to the surface and back again (thereby pushing the continental plates around). If the mantel hadn't some viscosity it couldn't create mantle convection right?
halucigenia wrote:Magma is generally produced at subduction zones where the oceanic plates are subducted into the mantle and also where heat "plumes" from the mantle transfer heat into the crustal rocks.
The subducting basalt and sediment are normally rich in hydrous minerals and clays. Additionally, large quantities of water are introduced into cracks and fractures created as the subducting slab bends downward.[2] During the transition from basalt to eclogite, these hydrous materials break down, producing copious quantities of water, which at such great pressure and temperature exists as a supercritical fluid. The supercritical water, which is hot and more buoyant than the surrounding rock, rises into the overlying mantle where it lowers the pressure in (and thus the melting temperature of) the mantle rock to the point of actual melting, generating magma. These magmas, in turn, rise, because they are less dense than the rocks of the mantle. These mantle-derived magmas (which are basaltic in composition) can continue to rise, ultimately to the Earth's surface, resulting in a volcanic eruption. The chemical composition of the erupting lava depends upon the degree to which the mantle-derived basalt (a) interacts with (melts) the Earth's crust and/or (b) undergoes fractional crystallization.
mhib1987 wrote:I am not a geologist,
but I think that if the mountains have roots deep into the earth,then it is for sure act like an extension for the earth crust deep inside, ultimately it will increase the stability of the crust.
I can compare it to a picture that you want to hang it on the wall ,you can use nails to stabilize the picture on the wall.nails is like the mountains, picture is the earth crust, and the wall is the earth itself.
even if some says that we didn't here it from scientists, but this does not mean it is wrong.
for example before longtime ago, scientists discover that earth is moving around the sun and they found the sun static(not moving).but with the advancement in the science they discover that the sun is also moving.so what I want to say even if the science didn't discover this it does not necessary means it is wrong.
Erakivnor wrote:@theropod
Well, if by "stable" crust you mean that is not significantly deforming since a long time...well Cratons (i.e. continental blocks not deformed since 1billion years ago or more) are stable.
Ciwan wrote:Awesome ! Thank You for the informative post Halucigenia.
About the original post, the muslim guy was saying that Allah placed the mountains as Pegs to stabilise the surface of the earth !! Not sure exactly what that means though and I'm guessing neither does he.
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