Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#121  Postby Fallible » Mar 13, 2018 7:05 am

jamest wrote:
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jamest wrote:
Fallible wrote:There is absolutely no way I could let someone feed me for life if I don't have to.

Unless you hunt for your own food on a daily basis, deal with it. Otherwise we're talking dollars, in which case we're talking economics, in which case you should be careful with your $$, in which case you should be thankful if someone spares yours by feeding you.

This amounts to 'pride' for you, I think. That's bollocks. One should never refuse charity because of a stupid egotistical value such as pride. In the world of money, one should do what's best for one's family. Refusing the offer of some stranger to pay for your food within this context is actually utterly irrational.
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stop posting drunk.

There was nothing within that post which hinted towards drunkeness, unless you didn't trust my 'regards' comment at the end? Therefore, stop posting derogatory comments as a retort to evading answering intelligent posts. Indeed, cease with the implication that you're just looking for negative thumbs-ups as a means of dealing with me.

I like you, sincerely, regardless of the shit you constantly give me, but if you're just going to post derogatory comments as a response to anything I say to you which you don't approve of, then I don't see the point any more of engaging with you. I know you've had a tough year, but taking it out on me ain't gonna help you. Not long-term, anyhow.

You can call me a drunk/cunt again if you wish, it will help me to clarify the situation. You'll no-doubt get a handful+ of thumbs-ups, though as long as you understand that I will NEVER be negatively affected by characters/shit such as you/this, as proved over two decades in holes such as this, by characters far more nasty than you, then fair enough. I've been accused by tosspots over those years of all sorts of things, including death threats and utter insanity. I'm still here!

A couple/few years ago hackenslash said to me that I was the 'best' theist he ever met wrt my ideas/attitude. I'm no longer sure if that holds for him, but what it means is that if I say something then you are obligated to either say something reasonable as a response, or else just shut your fuckin' gob, since as an atheist he is much more intelligent and knowledgable than yourself. I mean, I took plenty of shit from him, but at least he never ignored my comments whilst giving me that shit. He engaged with me, regardless.

If you choose not to engage with my comments again, then please just: stop posting pissed off.

Regards, again. And no, I'm not pissed. Nor pissed off. I just want you to stop acting like the sock puppet of a dick. If you choose to tow the same line, fair enough. Though if there's no semblance of reasonableness from you, just bitterness, then forgive me but I must obviously give up conversing with you. Regards, either way. Sincerely.


There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#122  Postby Fallible » Mar 13, 2018 7:08 am

Keep It Real wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:...people generally do as they please and believe what they want to.


Iain Banks (RIP) wrote exactly these words in the intro to one of his novels. I disagreed with him and I disagree with you. People do not believe what they want; they believe what they perceive to be the truth.


I have to agree with you there. People don't decide they want to believe something and then just believe it.
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If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
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Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#123  Postby zulumoose » Mar 13, 2018 7:58 am

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I read bollocks here on a regular basis, but your bollocks here demanded special treatment.

The point of Darwinism is that 'humans' are end-products of physical processes. 'They' don't get to balance or value anything, least of all choosing which relationships they shall pursue. Read 'mechanism/robot/puppet'.

You atheists want to have YOUR cake and eat it.


Darwinism is the starting point for the understanding of evolution, nothing more. It is not representative of modern understanding nor is it a dogma or belief system. It is akin to calling modern physicists Newtonians.

We are the end product of evolution, and part of the natural selection process is that tribes/families/communities who cooperated and shared knowledge and concern for each other were more "fit" for survival in the modern world as they expanded and encountered other groupings. Social behaviour is an evolutionary process, why this is hard to understand I don't know.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#124  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 13, 2018 10:36 am

Fallible wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:...people generally do as they please and believe what they want to.


Iain Banks (RIP) wrote exactly these words in the intro to one of his novels. I disagreed with him and I disagree with you. People do not believe what they want; they believe what they perceive to be the truth.


I have to agree with you there. People don't decide they want to believe something and then just believe it.


It's just the other side of the coin that says you can't make yourself believe something. I have expressed the opinion that people believe what they want to believe, at least as adults, at least when they've been offered alternatives. Nobody really knows much about this shit, although the psychobabblers do write reams and reams about it.

To say someone believes what they perceive to be the truth comes straight from the Department of Tautology Department.

Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


Sounds like you're saying he's doing it because he wants to.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#125  Postby Thommo » Mar 13, 2018 10:43 am

Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#126  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 13, 2018 10:46 am

Thommo wrote:I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


Towing the line is obviously in its death throws.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#127  Postby Thommo » Mar 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Thommo wrote:I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


Towing the line is obviously in its death throws.


Typical Cito. You're like a bowl in a china shop.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#128  Postby LucidFlight » Mar 13, 2018 12:10 pm

Thommo wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Thommo wrote:I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


Towing the line is obviously in its death throws.


Typical Cito. You're like a bowl in a china shop.


Wrecking havoc everywhere.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#129  Postby zulumoose » Mar 13, 2018 12:16 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Thommo wrote:I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


Towing the line is obviously in its death throws.


Typical Cito. You're like a bowl in a china shop.


Wrecking havoc everywhere.


Obviously drunken disorderly
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#130  Postby Sendraks » Mar 13, 2018 12:26 pm

zulumoose wrote:
LucidFlight wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:

Towing the line is obviously in its death throws.


Typical Cito. You're like a bowl in a china shop.


Wrecking havoc everywhere.


Obviously drunken disorderly


To all intensive purposes.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#131  Postby BlackBart » Mar 13, 2018 12:47 pm

Stop transpiring against Cito. Its paramount to trawling.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#132  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 13, 2018 12:53 pm

Sendraks wrote:
zulumoose wrote:
LucidFlight wrote:
Thommo wrote:

Typical Cito. You're like a bowl in a china shop.


Wrecking havoc everywhere.


Obviously drunken disorderly


To all intensive purposes.


You're all just trying to make me the escape goat.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#133  Postby zulumoose » Mar 13, 2018 1:03 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
zulumoose wrote:
LucidFlight wrote:

Wrecking havoc everywhere.


Obviously drunken disorderly


To all intensive purposes.


You're all just trying to make me the escape goat.


If the cape fits..
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#134  Postby Sendraks » Mar 13, 2018 1:21 pm

zulumoose wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Sendraks wrote:
zulumoose wrote:

Obviously drunken disorderly


To all intensive purposes.


You're all just trying to make me the escape goat.


If the cape fits..


Alas, that train has sailed.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#135  Postby Fallible » Mar 13, 2018 2:15 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
Fallible wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:...people generally do as they please and believe what they want to.


Iain Banks (RIP) wrote exactly these words in the intro to one of his novels. I disagreed with him and I disagree with you. People do not believe what they want; they believe what they perceive to be the truth.


I have to agree with you there. People don't decide they want to believe something and then just believe it.


It's just the other side of the coin that says you can't make yourself believe something. I have expressed the opinion that people believe what they want to believe, at least as adults, at least when they've been offered alternatives. Nobody really knows much about this shit, although the psychobabblers do write reams and reams about it.

To say someone believes what they perceive to be the truth comes straight from the Department of Tautology Department.


It may do. That doesn't mean describing the process as 'people believe what they want to believe' is accurate, or that 'well no one knows much about this shit [so what I say is as important as anything else]' is in any way more important than what psychobabblers write. You've expressed an opinion. Have a lollipop.

Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


Sounds like you're saying he's doing it because he wants to.


I'm not sure what you're attempting to say here. Can you elaborate?
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Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#136  Postby Fallible » Mar 13, 2018 2:16 pm

Thommo wrote:
Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


It's almost as though you see me as some pedantic spelling Nazi.
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If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
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Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#137  Postby Sendraks » Mar 13, 2018 2:24 pm

Fallible wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


It's almost as though you see me as some pedantic spelling Nazi.


An unconventional idea for a risque outfit for a bit of roleplay but, I'm sure you'd make i work.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#138  Postby Thommo » Mar 13, 2018 4:15 pm

Fallible wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


It's almost as though you see me as some pedantic spelling Nazi.


Well, I like to think I'm not the only one, you see. Sorry if that's unfair to you. In my defence there were a number of similar responses, which amused me enough to feel vindicated.

Also: I saw nothing else in that post that you were replying to that was worth the effort of a response.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#139  Postby Thommo » Mar 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Sendraks wrote:
Fallible wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Fallible wrote:There's nothing here worth engaging with. Come back when you reliably feel like you can make a post which isn't 90+% sucking your own cock. Regards.


I genuinely expected you to comment on "tow the line".


It's almost as though you see me as some pedantic spelling Nazi.


An unconventional idea for a risque outfit for a bit of roleplay but, I'm sure you'd make i work.


Freudian slip.
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Re: Do we live in a de facto post scarcity economy in Europe?

#140  Postby BlackBart » Mar 13, 2018 4:27 pm

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