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"There are no unemployed people"

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 19, 2017 3:17 pm

Speaking to Andrew Marr, the chancellor says "there are no unemployed people", when asked about the threat to jobs posed by new technology.
Asked to clarify, he said the government had not forgotten the 1.4m unemployed in the UK, saying people were finding work "at a remarkable rate".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-42042769/philip-hammond-says-there-are-no-unemployed-people



WTF?! I estimate that 90% of people in my neighbourhood are on ESA - and none of them show up in the unemployment statistics, so it's not even just 1.4 million technically unemployed according to any sensible definition IMO. The gov are pulling the wool over our eyes about this IMO.
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Re: "There are no unemployed people"

#2  Postby Thommo » Nov 20, 2017 12:25 pm

I don't think there's much mileage in pretending he meant something he didn't. His comment was poorly put, but clearly referring to a specific situation (shorthand typists).

Politicians say plenty of reprehensible things that they mean and make plenty of genuine errors, it's better to worry about those instead of manufactured talking points.
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Re: "There are no unemployed people"

#3  Postby minininja » Nov 22, 2017 6:50 pm

Thommo wrote:I don't think there's much mileage in pretending he meant something he didn't. His comment was poorly put, but clearly referring to a specific situation (shorthand typists).

Politicians say plenty of reprehensible things that they mean and make plenty of genuine errors, it's better to worry about those instead of manufactured talking points.

While I agree with this mostly, I don't think he should be let completely off the hook for his statement. Even in context it's avoiding telling the full story. The percentage of employees that are now in insecure and low paying jobs has definitely increased and the requirements for highly technical retraining in order to get good jobs is leaving many people behind. When compared to the cost of living there has been a stratification in society caused at least in part by the benefits of technological progress not being shared equally throughout society, - and the Tories would rather pretend it's not happening than do anything about it.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]
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#4  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 13, 2018 12:04 am

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