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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#21  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 28, 2018 8:56 pm

When you get back, could you add a poll to the thread for my question? I feel like we're really getting somewhere.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#22  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 28, 2018 9:05 pm

Not in your wildest dreams.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#23  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 28, 2018 9:19 pm

Why don't you start a proper thread for once American SAM?
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#24  Postby Cito di Pense » Nov 28, 2018 10:24 pm

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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#25  Postby Thommo » Nov 28, 2018 11:04 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:
Thommo wrote:You know what, that's my fault for giving a sensible answer.

As you were.

So blue or green?


Maybe get one of each and use a different one depending on mood? :ask:
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#26  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 28, 2018 11:52 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Why don't you start a proper thread for once American SAM?

I have started proper threads. I just wait until I have something that's actually worth having a discussion about, you should try it sometime :smile:
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#27  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 28, 2018 11:58 pm

Thommo wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
Thommo wrote:You know what, that's my fault for giving a sensible answer.

As you were.

So blue or green?


Maybe get one of each and use a different one depending on mood? :ask:

I find that when it comes to psyching oneself up to go do laundry, having fewer options is best.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#28  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 29, 2018 12:00 am

Keep It Real wrote:Not in your wildest dreams.

That's too bad, I think it would bring a lot of added value to the thread.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#29  Postby LucidFlight » Nov 29, 2018 3:16 am

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SafeAsMilk wrote:Next topic: should I buy a blue laundry bag or a green one? This, and other pointless tripe, coming soon!


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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#30  Postby LucidFlight » Nov 29, 2018 3:23 am

Keep It Real wrote:They're in pretty well every newsagent and supermarket Thommo. Youth gambling has quadrupled in the last two years, perhaps largely because they're ubiquitously on offer in respectable establishments (not bookies; the place where mum buys the groceries). Gambling is A ok! Buy a scratchcard along with your free-range eggs!

I heard that loot boxes in games might have something to do with the rise in youth gambling. This is just something I heard, of course. I don't have the links or anything to back that up right now. Just imagine we're in the pub talking about it.

But, yeah, I see scratch cards as more of the gossip magazines of gambling, whereas betting is more like the tabloids. Then you've got baccarat and poker, which are like the broadsheets or something. You wouldn't play baccarat at the bookies, would you? I don't know. I've never been.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#31  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 29, 2018 4:12 am

Scratchcards are sold at the tobacco counter in large supermarkets and the checkout in newsagents. The duplicity of tobacco products legally needing to be sold in plain packets, and being totally hidden from view, where as the scratchcards stands tall and proud in their displaycase smack bang in the eyeline, sparkling with multi-coloured "happy vibe" visualisation, is not lost on us I am sure.

If poker and baccarat are the broudsheets, then what are financial derivitives I wonder? Warrants, covered warrants, spread betting...novels?
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#32  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 29, 2018 4:34 am

Social worker: So, Sandra, you want me to give you access to the new foodbank...of course I care deeply about the welfare of your infant daughter, but how many scratchcards did you buy last month?

Sandra: Oh, not many...well, I buy one every so often....maybe every other day, just one or two...

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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#33  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 29, 2018 5:13 am

Keep It Real wrote:Bet365: UK's best-paid boss sees pay rise to £265m

I'm sure she deserves every penny :wince:


Article detailing scourge of youth gambling...She blamed advertising for helping to normalise gambling among the young, and urged the government to ban it.


I reckon awarding this...orthodox economist a CBE doesn't help much either....
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#34  Postby Fallible » Nov 29, 2018 6:57 am

Rather obviously, scratch cards can be picked up in a minute or two in your local supermarket while you're probably there anyway doing your shop, or at the newsagent popping in for a few bits. You can easily nip to the corner shop for a card or two. They don't require a special trip to a different place full of primarily men, with an aura of despair. This makes them accessible to most demographics, including women, who tend to the less 'grimy' suppliers of gambling. And, of course, what Thommo said.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#35  Postby Keep It Real » Nov 29, 2018 7:11 am

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Why pay staff and rent costs to sell someone else's product that directly competes with your own? You posted this in the economics forum and there's a standard, obvious economic answer - you will only do it if it maximises your own profits. In the case of selling someone else's directly competing product it won't. Selling your own gambles sees all the revenue come to you. Selling someone else's is virtually worthless. That makes the net opportunity cost too great.


Supermarkets/newsagents do not sell their own scratchcards - they make a profit from selling them. Also, scratchcards do not have anything like perfect substitutes (that's an economic term BTW) and so are not in direct competition with bookies' other products. You really think a horses man is going to switch to scratchcards just because they're being sold behind the counter at betfred?

Basically I'm wearing a tinfoil hat on this one RE the thread title. Either the scratchcard manufacturers/distributers, or the gov, refuse to allow the sale of scratchcards in bookies because they don't want their lovely, pretty, accessible cash cows (scratchcards) to be tainted with their true identity/home which is the aformentioned "auro of despair" venues/lifestyles.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#36  Postby Cito di Pense » Nov 29, 2018 8:44 am

Keep It Real wrote:
Supermarkets/newsagents do not sell their own scratchcards - they make a profit from selling them.


Merchants sell stuff at zero net or even at a loss to draw customers who might buy more profitable items. I imagine there are plenty of folks who go in to buy a scratchcard and suddenly realize they need to lay in some more booze.

These are people not likely to be very good at estimating the odds of a win. I could dream of hitting a lotto jackpot, but I have too many more interesting things to think about than what I would do with my millions. I could always travel, but then I'd have the AGW hawks on my tail all the time. Thank fuck the odds are only one in a few billions.

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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#37  Postby zulumoose » Nov 29, 2018 8:52 am

These are people not likely to be very good at estimating the odds of a win.


I suspect the bulk of customers do not buy with anything approximating financial sense in mind. The attraction of a lottery ticket or scratch card is in the thrill of risk, the license to daydream about possible winnings, the attraction of bragging rights if any significant amount is won, and silly impulse. Odds are fairly irrelevant I would think.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#38  Postby felltoearth » Nov 29, 2018 5:03 pm

When I'm a bit flush I buy a lottery ticket. I was almost hit by lighting once, so maybe I'll almost win some day.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#39  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 30, 2018 12:19 am

Ah, the lottery. A tax on hope, I've heard it called.
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Re: Why don't they sell scratch cards in betting shops?

#40  Postby laklak » Nov 30, 2018 1:20 am

It's a tax on stupid. But hey, somebody's gotta win. The scratch card games have much better odds than lotto. The current big scratch card in Florida is "Monopoly", with a $2,000,000 prize. Odds are 1/2,500,000. Odds in Florida Lotto are about 1/14,000,000, and odds in the Megamillions are about 1/320,000,000.

You're far, far better off drawing to an inside straight flush.
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