Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

Discussions for education, teaching & parenting.

Moderators: Blip, The_Metatron

Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#1  Postby DougC » Mar 18, 2015 9:01 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31925449
B.B.C. Article
A long-term study has pointed to a link between breastfeeding and intelligence.
The research in Brazil traced nearly 3,500 babies, from all walks of life, and found those who had been breastfed for longer went on to score higher on IQ tests as adults.
Experts say the results, while not conclusive, appear to back current advice that babies should be exclusively breastfed for six months.
But they say mothers should still have a choice about whether or not to do it.
Regarding the findings - published in The Lancet Global Health - they stress there are many different factors other than breastfeeding that could have an impact on intelligence, although the researchers did try to rule out the main confounders, such as mother's education, family income and birth weight.

(Continues)
To do, is to be (Socrate)
To be, is to do (Sartre)
Do be do be do (Sinatra)
SUBWAY(1985)
DougC
THREAD STARTER
 
Posts: 14420
Age: 46
Male

Country: UNITED Kingdom
United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Ads by Google


Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#2  Postby I'm With Stupid » Mar 19, 2015 1:07 am

Yep, Einstein was breastfeeding well into his 40s.
Image
User avatar
I'm With Stupid
 
Posts: 9229
Age: 35
Male

Country: Malaysia
Jolly Roger (arr)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#3  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Mar 19, 2015 2:24 am

We should mandate it. It is in the best interests of the child.
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
User avatar
Jerome Da Gnome
Banned User
 
Name: Jerome
Posts: 5719

Country: usa
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#4  Postby I'm With Stupid » Mar 19, 2015 4:31 am

They can't even regulate the shit that they sell to older kids. I don't see how you can regulate how people feed their babies. On a positive note, there might finally be a legitimate use for all of those Federal Breast Inspector t-shirts if they go ahead with it.
Image
User avatar
I'm With Stupid
 
Posts: 9229
Age: 35
Male

Country: Malaysia
Jolly Roger (arr)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#5  Postby igorfrankensteen » Mar 19, 2015 4:50 am

I'm ever cautious about studies such as this. All statistical correlation kinds of conclusions are tricky.

I don't care about this one too much, since it isn't promoting anything dangerous per se.

I couldn't tell from the article whether they thought through the more obvious concerns, rather than just the usual political ones they mentioned...

...such as finding out WHY a woman did or didn't breast feed her baby for whatever length of time she did so. I should think that THAT would be far more informative than social status and such.

For example, I have directly seen that the cause and effect is often reversed in real life. It isn't that a given child had more trouble through their life because their mother failed to suckle them long enough; it's that the child or the mother had inherent physiological problems of one sort or another which made their lives more difficult, AND prevented a long suckling period.
User avatar
igorfrankensteen
 
Name: michael e munson
Posts: 2114
Age: 65
Male

Country: United States
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#6  Postby trevp » Mar 19, 2015 10:28 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:We should mandate it. It is in the best interests of the child.


Well even the highest estimates for the number of women who can breastfeed only suggest that 97% of women are able to breastfeed. According to the office of national statistics in the UK, there were 723,913 live births in 2011. 3% of this figure is 21,717 and this would give an approximation of the number of mothers in the UK every year unable to breastfeed (excluding the effect of twins and triplets which would be quire small).

This makes the whole idea of mandatory breastfeeding (even excluding argumnents about personal freedom of choice) pretty stupid.
trevp
 
Posts: 154
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#7  Postby Sendraks » Mar 19, 2015 10:40 am

trevp wrote:
Jerome Da Gnome wrote:We should mandate it. It is in the best interests of the child.


Well even the highest estimates for the number of women who can breastfeed only suggest that 97% of women are able to breastfeed. According to the office of national statistics in the UK, there were 723,913 live births in 2011. 3% of this figure is 21,717 and this would give an approximation of the number of mothers in the UK every year unable to breastfeed (excluding the effect of twins and triplets which would be quire small).

This makes the whole idea of mandatory breastfeeding (even excluding argumnents about personal freedom of choice) pretty stupid.


:this:
"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C Clarke

"'Science doesn't know everything' - Well science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop" - Dara O'Brian
User avatar
Sendraks
 
Name: D-Money Jr
Posts: 15086
Age: 103
Male

Country: England
Print view this post

Ads by Google


Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#8  Postby Paul » Mar 19, 2015 11:02 am

There was a woman on BBC yesterday talking about this and she was bemoaning the fact that a lot of time in ante-natal class is spent telling expectant mothers how good breastfeeding is, and not enough time telling them how to deal with problems when they apparently can't breastfeed, which only makes the poor women more anxious when they do have problems.

Can't remember what her precise role is, but she often gets called in to help mothers having difficulty and is often able to solve problems, and wishes more support was given in the NHS to doing the same thing.
"Peter, I can see your house from here!"
User avatar
Paul
 
Posts: 4550
Age: 61
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#9  Postby babel » Mar 19, 2015 11:04 am

Is this effect noticeable, even if the mother isn't eating properly herself?

edit: I'm not talking about not being able to breastfeed, but about the increase in IQ.
Milton Jones: "Just bought a broken second hand time machine - plan to fix it, have lots of adventures then go back and not buy it, he he idiots.."
User avatar
babel
 
Posts: 4673
Age: 38
Male

Country: Belgium
Belgium (be)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#10  Postby Sendraks » Mar 19, 2015 11:08 am

Paul wrote:There was a woman on BBC yesterday talking about this and she was bemoaning the fact that a lot of time in ante-natal class is spent telling expectant mothers how good breastfeeding is, and not enough time telling them how to deal with problems when they apparently can't breastfeed, which only makes the poor women more anxious when they do have problems.

Can't remember what her precise role is, but she often gets called in to help mothers having difficulty and is often able to solve problems, and wishes more support was given in the NHS to doing the same thing.


I saw that as well. From what I've heard from my friends who've had kids, the support about "how to breastfeed" and what the difficulties might be, varies across the country. I think it is another one of those issues that from the outside seems relatively straightforward "baby hungry? Present breast. Baby feed" that gets waaaay more complicated in practise. I know for some of my friends, worrying that they might not be able to breastfeed caused them a lot of anxiety and occasions where their baby wouldn't latch or did latch and no milk emerged, induced full blown panic.

Then you've got breast milk itself, which if its workings haven't been explained to you, can also cause confusion for a mother.
"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C Clarke

"'Science doesn't know everything' - Well science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop" - Dara O'Brian
User avatar
Sendraks
 
Name: D-Money Jr
Posts: 15086
Age: 103
Male

Country: England
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#11  Postby ED209 » Mar 19, 2015 11:13 am

I call bullshit on all this. Aside from the general bullshittedness of IQ testing and the unreliability of respondents' reports there is no way that they could have been successful in controlling for all the confounding factors at either the individual or social/national levels.

What's the impact on a developing baby of a mother made to feel stressed and guilty because they are unable to breastfeed? I'll guess we'll know in 30 years.
It's been taught that your worst enemy cannot harm you as much as your own wicked thoughts.
User avatar
ED209
 
Posts: 10417

Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#12  Postby trubble76 » Mar 21, 2015 5:09 pm

I could use a few extra IQ points, it is not always easy to find someone willing to breastfeed you though :(
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose,
And nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free.

"Suck me off and I'll turn the voltage down"
User avatar
trubble76
RS Donator
 
Posts: 11205
Age: 42
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#13  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Yay, something else to bully women who can't/don't want to breastfeed over!
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: a certain type of girl
Posts: 12814
Age: 31
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#14  Postby Animavore » Mar 21, 2015 6:58 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:We should mandate it. It is in the best interests of the child.

Yes, but keep them out of the public eye while we do it.
A most evolved electron.
User avatar
Animavore
 
Name: The Scribbler
Posts: 42578
Age: 40
Male

Ireland (ie)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#15  Postby Veida » Mar 21, 2015 8:52 pm

A good predictor of the IQ of a child is the IQ of its parents.

This study didn't compensate for the IQ of the parents. That's pretty poor, isn't it?
Veida
 
Posts: 851

Sweden (se)
Print view this post

Ads by Google



Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#17  Postby Fallible » Mar 22, 2015 9:38 am

If, after being bludgeoned with the 'breast is best' message for months on end, mothers find that their milk hasn't come in or that the baby can't latch on, and when they get more and more exhausted and anxious which makes it more and more difficult to breast feed, and when after weeks of broken sleep, self-flagellation and breast pumps they give up, this kind of nonsense is the last thing they need. Everyone knows it's good for babies to drink breast milk. Sometimes it doesn't/can't happen. In the vast majority of these cases, the baby is still fine and goes on to live a normal life.
John Grant wrote:They say 'let go, let go, let go, you must learn to let go'.
If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
Into a million itsy bitsy tiny pieces, don't you know,
Just like my favourite scene in Scanners .
User avatar
Fallible
RS Donator
 
Name: Alice Pooper
Posts: 48674
Age: 46
Female

Country: Engerland na na
Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: Breastfeeding 'linked to higher IQ'

#18  Postby cavarka9 » Mar 25, 2015 8:38 am

just findout what in breastmilk increases iq and replicate it for all adults too!.
Every moment is a choice.Choices you make now determine your destiny.free yourself of old choices made. Success is a journey,not a destination.
User avatar
cavarka9
 
Name: prajna
Posts: 3256

Country: 21.0000° N, 78.0000° E
India (in)
Print view this post


Return to Parenting & Education

Who is online

Users viewing this topic: No registered users and 1 guest