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Does God belong in school?

#1  Postby The Serpent » Feb 12, 2015 6:52 am

Religious traditions are the fault lines along which societies fracture when placed under stress. -- Sam Harris
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#2  Postby hackenslash » Feb 12, 2015 8:52 am

Yes, god belongs in school. It's the best place for him to learn how to be socially responsible, how proper standards of evidence work, etc.

What a great suggestion!
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#3  Postby chairman bill » Feb 12, 2015 9:56 am

I'd say he belongs in a secure psychiatric hospital
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#4  Postby Arcanyn » Feb 12, 2015 9:57 am

If gods want to show up at schools, there probably isn't much we can do to stop them. After all, given they tend to be invulnerable and capable of throwing lightning, there's little you could do to evict an unwanted god that happened to turn up.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#5  Postby chairman bill » Feb 12, 2015 12:46 pm

"Yaweh, saying 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me' doesn't give you the right to keep pinching Zeus or pulling Hera's pigtails. Now get out here and write on the blackboard, one hundred times, 'I must be a less capricious and psychopathic deity'."
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#6  Postby Sendraks » Feb 12, 2015 1:04 pm

chairman bill wrote:"Yaweh, saying 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me'


also means he doesn't get the chance to push to the front of the queue at lunchtimes. Or be picked first in sports. For both teams.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#7  Postby Animavore » Feb 12, 2015 1:10 pm

From the comments...

Not just in schools [I presume the person means God here], but should be integrated in our daily life. We see the result in other, especially European countries, by abandoning Christianity and what it stands for.


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Re: Does God belong in school?

#8  Postby colubridae » Feb 12, 2015 1:12 pm

Do unicorns belong in school?

Does the tooth fairy belong in school?
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#9  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 12, 2015 2:11 pm

God's parents would be in big trouble when it fails to show up to any classes.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#10  Postby Blackadder » Feb 12, 2015 9:01 pm

Given his track record of impregnating virgins, it would probably be advisable to keep him away from schools.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#11  Postby jamest » Feb 12, 2015 9:22 pm

It might surprise you to know that I don't think that religious education should be part of the curriculum, at any age. I do place a great value on philosophy though, and actually think that it should be a compulsory subject (like maths and English) after the age of 11 (secondary school), until the kids choose which subjects to take regards their future qualifications (aged 13 or 14). To that ends, God and religions would be part of the agenda; which in itself would not be a bad thing - making an informed and rational decision about such matters is surely what we want for our kids?
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#12  Postby hackenslash » Feb 12, 2015 9:28 pm

jamest wrote:It might surprise you to know that I don't think that religious education should be part of the curriculum, at any age.


It doesn't surprise me in the least. RE is the best way to ameliorate gullibility.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#13  Postby Hamster » Jul 27, 2015 5:18 am

Sendraks wrote:also means he doesn't get the chance to push to the front of the queue at lunchtimes. Or be picked first in sports. For both teams.

If god was chosen for both teams (in say a soccer match), who would win? I mean he moves in mysterious ways sure, but how would he counter himself.

I guess he's worked both sides in a conflict often enough to know.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#14  Postby Calilasseia » Jul 27, 2015 6:12 pm

I've no problem with comparative mythology being on the curriculum. What I do regard as wholly unwarranted, is treating the mythologies in question as fact in class. Of course, every time the annoying question about whether Magic Man "belongs in schools" is aired, it's usually aired by supernaturalists who want their choice of mythology treating as fact in class.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#15  Postby monkeyboy » Jul 27, 2015 6:28 pm

chairman bill wrote:I'd say he belongs in a secure psychiatric hospital

No thanks, we have several already, a Jesus, a messiah and a couple of angels. Our religious quota is full.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#16  Postby Evolving » Dec 06, 2015 10:49 am

Schools should no longer face a legal requirement to provide daily acts of worship of a Christian character, under radical reforms being proposed by a top-level inquiry into the place of faith in multicultural Britain.
The Commission on Religion and Belief in British Public Life, led by former high court judge Elizabeth Butler-Sloss, also recommends curtailing the segregation of children by faith and a radical overhaul of the teaching of belief to make it more realistic and relevant in a diverse and increasingly secular country.
The weighty report…


http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/dec/06/religious-teaching-school-assemblies-axe-report

The content of syllabuses on religion and belief does not reflect reality and is overly sanitised, it says. “They tend to portray religions only in a good light...


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Re: Does God belong in school?

#17  Postby chairman bill » Dec 06, 2015 10:58 am

Bugrit! I was about to post that. Butler-Sloss is very well respected, and very influential. Let's hope this report leads to major changes, preferably one where religious assemblies & in-school prayer are banned, with supernaturalists being told to fuck off out of the running of schools. It won't, but it would be nice, and maybe in ten or twenty years ...
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#18  Postby Alan B » Dec 06, 2015 1:51 pm

Hmmm! That'll send a shiver up some RC (and Muslim) spines...
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#19  Postby AMYNTAS » Dec 13, 2015 7:58 pm

In public, secular schools, there is good reason for God to be "in" the schools, if by that we mean discussion about theism and religion. A good grasp of history, philosophy, political science, and sociology, just for starters, requires some knowledge about theism and religion, even for just its enormous role they have had and continue to have in this world. If a school is publicly funded but not secular in principle, then I see no reason why theism cannot be endorsed by some schools.
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Re: Does God belong in school?

#20  Postby mindhack » Dec 14, 2015 3:24 pm

AMYNTAS wrote:In public, secular schools, there is good reason for God to be "in" the schools, if by that we mean discussion about theism and religion. A good grasp of history, philosophy, political science, and sociology, just for starters, requires some knowledge about theism and religion, even for just its enormous role they have had and continue to have in this world. If a school is publicly funded but not secular in principle, then I see no reason why theism cannot be endorsed by some schools.

It doesn't require any such thing. Theism and religion may come up on occasion, because humans do as humans are, but that's about it.

Better to just serve critical thinking skills and let pupils solve it all by themselves.
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