Mick wrote:

Oldskeptic wrote:

Mick wrote:

I'd lend my support behind the idea that sometimes women received some of the blame for being raped.

Sometimes, but not all the time or even most of the time, and I'd venture to say that when things like this are said it is by prudish religious folk with prudish religious women saying it the most.

Haven't you heard of people say stuff like But look at the way she dressed! She was asking for it! as if she is partially culpable for being subjected to the rape just in virtue of her clothes.

No I haven't heard this from anyone in person, but I have read things like this and heard them from religious fuckheads on TV preaching their hateful messages while groveling for money.

And sometimes women are rendered as objects rather than persons. Consider some of the language between young males: Did you hit it? or I'd hit that two times! Here both sentences are often referring to a female with non-personal pronouns: she is an it or a that rather than a person. It is an object to fuck; it receives the fuck; it is something the man does rather than something shared.

Teen flicks are not real life. You need to get out more.

Ever wonder why porn culminates with the man's orgasm?

The three times that I can remember watching porn was at the instigation of women, and to my recollection there was a lot of moaning and screaming that indicated that both parties were cumming at the same time. Of course since I don't have a lot of experience with watching porn and you seemingly do I will defer to your vaster knowledge of porn, but ask what the fuck does this have to do with anything?

I am educated on a lot of subjects but pornographic movies and videos are not among them. I've never been interested in watching other people have sex, but it seems that you are. Are you a representative example of all men, or just someone who likes to watch porn?

just a note here: those sentences from the youth have been taken from my own experience either from my high school days, friends from today or within today's schools (im an educator).

I don't believe a word you say. You claim to be an educator but you don't know to capitalize the first letter in sentence or that "im" is not a word.

(im an educator) Step into my office. Why? Because you're fucking fired.

Oldskeptic wrote:

Mick wrote:

Oldskeptic wrote:

Sometimes, but not all the time or even most of the time, and I'd venture to say that when things like this are said it is by prudish religious folk with prudish religious women saying it the most.



No I haven't heard this from anyone in person, but I have read things like this and heard them from religious fuckheads on TV preaching their hateful messages while groveling for money.



Teen flicks are not real life. You need to get out more.



The three times that I can remember watching porn was at the instigation of women, and to my recollection there was a lot of moaning and screaming that indicated that both parties were cumming at the same time. Of course since I don't have a lot of experience with watching porn and you seemingly do I will defer to your vaster knowledge of porn, but ask what the fuck does this have to do with anything?

I am educated on a lot of subjects but pornographic movies and videos are not among them. I've never been interested in watching other people have sex, but it seems that you are. Are you a representative example of all men, or just someone who likes to watch porn?

just a note here: those sentences from the youth have been taken from my own experience either from my high school days, friends from today or within today's schools (im an educator).

I don't believe a word you say. You claim to be an educator but you don't know to capitalize the first letter in sentence or that "im" is not a word.

(im an educator) Step into my office. Why? Because you're fucking fired.

Iol. because obviously it's not just informal internet speak or general laziness on my part. Nope, it cant be!

gimme a break.

Words you will probably never see again from me: I have to back Mick up here. My husband is a teacher, and he rarely uses punctuation of any kind when he types posts on the internet. It completely does my head in, but there we are. He's also been a grade A marker of English exam papers about 8 years running, meaning he is one of the top scoring markers in the country, with among the least number of errors. So I think it's reaching somewhat to extrapolate from missed capitalisation or punctuation in a forum post that the author must be shit at his job.

Fallible wrote:Words you will probably never see again from me: I have to back Mick up here. My husband is a teacher, and he rarely uses punctuation of any kind when he types posts on the internet. It completely does my head in, but there we are. He's also been a grade A marker of English exam papers about 8 years running, meaning he is one of the top scoring markers in the country, with among the least number of errors. So I think it's reaching somewhat to extrapolate from missed capitalisation or punctuation in a forum post that the author must be shit at his job.

before u know it, youll be a classical theist with a conservative spin greater than edward feser.

Well, Superman became evil for a while, so you know...there's a precedent there. By the way, I meant to say that he hardly uses capitalisation OR punctuation. Not just punctuation.

ncl rph hrdl ss vwls.

orpheus wrote:ncl rph hrdl ss vwls.

Uncle Orpheus hardly uses vowels.
Neither do I when I speak, or rather, write Welsh.

Oldskeptic wrote:

Mick wrote:

Oldskeptic wrote:

Sometimes, but not all the time or even most of the time, and I'd venture to say that when things like this are said it is by prudish religious folk with prudish religious women saying it the most.



No I haven't heard this from anyone in person, but I have read things like this and heard them from religious fuckheads on TV preaching their hateful messages while groveling for money.



Teen flicks are not real life. You need to get out more.



The three times that I can remember watching porn was at the instigation of women, and to my recollection there was a lot of moaning and screaming that indicated that both parties were cumming at the same time. Of course since I don't have a lot of experience with watching porn and you seemingly do I will defer to your vaster knowledge of porn, but ask what the fuck does this have to do with anything?

I am educated on a lot of subjects but pornographic movies and videos are not among them. I've never been interested in watching other people have sex, but it seems that you are. Are you a representative example of all men, or just someone who likes to watch porn?

just a note here: those sentences from the youth have been taken from my own experience either from my high school days, friends from today or within today's schools (im an educator).

I don't believe a word you say. You claim to be an educator but you don't know to capitalize the first letter in sentence or that "im" is not a word.

(im an educator) Step into my office. Why? Because you're fucking fired.

Well, you don't know whom he educates, nor the subject.

orpheus wrote:ncl rph hrdl ss vwls.

ppcrn nyn?

thnk v strtd smthng...

Nt rll, yr jst spkng Wlsh.

r Fnnsh

oii

Fallible wrote:Words you will probably never see again from me: I have to back Mick up here. My husband is a teacher, and he rarely uses punctuation of any kind when he types posts on the internet. It completely does my head in, but there we are. He's also been a grade A marker of English exam papers about 8 years running, meaning he is one of the top scoring markers in the country, with among the least number of errors. So I think it's reaching somewhat to extrapolate from missed capitalisation or punctuation in a forum post that the author must be shit at his job.

Well I don't normally comment on peoples' punctuation or spelling because I get it wrong sometimes myself. But (im an educator) jumped out at me. Also I take care to get the punctuation and spelling correct as well as grammar in everything that I write.

I don't think that being on the internet is any excuse to get lazy. And what the fuck is informal internet speak? How fucking hard is it to hit the shift key or put an apostrophe were it belongs.

If your husband ignores the rules that he teaches then why teach them? Does or would your husband ignore the rules that he teaches on a thread where he is claiming to be a grade A marker. As in (im a grade a marker). That would ring some alarm bells and or suspicions of how good a marker he is now wouldn't it?

I have no idea what Mick educates about, but it really doesn't matter. He claims to be an educator but shows no sign of being educated.

I went to college and was made to learn how to write using standard punctuation and that spelling was important. That stuck with me.

(im an educator)

im of too the jim now soo ant srudents tag want two contat me wheel half to wheight umtil i get donne to recive a respons?

What have ants got to do with anything?

This is kind of off-topic, but to be honest I don't see the problem. 'If your husband ignores the rules why teach them'? Well er...that seems like a non-sequitur to me. Because teaching is his job, but he can type however he likes when he's not at work. The two things are unrelated. He places more value on getting his point across than on being grammatically accurate while typing on the internet. It irritates me, I'm always chewing his ear about it, but that's my problem and it doesn't say anything about his abilities as a teacher. You are free to make any inferences you like about a person based on whether he uses capital letters or not, but you could be quite wrong, because this one aspect does not give you enough information to go on. That was my point.

Does or would your husband ignore the rules that he teaches on a thread where he is claiming to be a grade A marker.As in (im a grade a marker).

He doesn't talk about such things on the internet, so I don't know. He uses it almost entirely for banter with his friends. When he needs to use proper capitalisation and punctuation, for example in a CV, he uses it.

By the way you used a full stop up above there instead of a question mark, twice. You also used parentheses incorrectly. This in spite of your claim further down that you learned how to write using standard punctuation and that it stuck with you. Should I be suspicious of your claim?

That would ring some alarm bells and or suspicions of how good a marker he is now wouldn't it?

Well I don't think I'm too bothered about either beyond simply making the point that lack of correct punctuation or whatever does not necessarily say a thing about a person's level of education or abilities in the workplace. Can't see him being very concerned either. Not doing a thing does not equal inability to do a thing.

I have no idea what Mick educates about, but it really doesn't matter. He claims to be an educator but shows no sign of being educated

.

I think that is quite a large exaggeration. He misses capital letters and apostrophes, but much as I think he talks a load of nonsense sometimes, he cannot be accused of showing no sign of being educated. Also I have to tell you that I roomed with 4 student teachers. You've never seen such terrible spelling, grammar and punctuation. Mick beats the average teacher into a cocked hat in literacy terms in my experience.

I went to college and was made to learn how to write using standard punctuation and that spelling was important. That stuck with me.

So did I, and it stuck with me too. My husband also went to university and learned about spelling, punctuation and grammar. However although he thinks teaching such things is valuable, getting ideas out quickly has always been more important to him than ensuring he's got all his capitalisation spot-on, and he went into teaching for reasons other than helping kids learn how to write in the standard manner. When he needs to he'll do it, but I think he finds it 'freeing' or some shit to not bother about conventions when he's finking. I'm uptight about such things as apostrophes, he is not. He still knows how to use them though.

For a profession, I teach kids from K to grade 6. There you'll also find me intructing ESL students or kids with developmental delays too. Every so often I get the opportunity to do a guest lecture at a high school about either Descartes, Hume or some other modern figure of philosophy, or I might just talk about some basic debates within metaphysics (say, universals) or epistemology (say, er, epistemic luck and knowledge). I even get the chance to be a TA for a philosophy of religion class or something else involving logic.

Wowie! I'm purty special. Perhaps one day I will be your TA!

TA? Teaching assistant?

Regina wrote:TA? Teaching assistant?

Yes. Typically to be a philosophy teacher at a university, you need a phd. i dont have one.