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Re: Hundreds of heads and church leaders oppose sex lessons

#21  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Apr 09, 2010 9:48 am

I don't think there are many subjects where it is too young to talk about stuff. A young kid might have a pet hamster or goldfish that dies, so you have to talk about that. Dogs have sex, so you have to talk about that. Maybe there is a deeper reason like religious wankers don't want to talk about sex and death in any realistic way because sex and death equals evolution.
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#22  Postby Emmeline » Apr 09, 2010 10:04 am

Sex education has been taught in primary schools for decades. Currently, it's up to the Governing Body of each school to decide whether to include sex education on the curriculum and many do (and will probably continue to include it). Parents have the right to withdraw their children from these lessons if they wish to.
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#23  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Apr 09, 2010 10:10 am

Topsy wrote:Sex education has been taught in primary schools for decades. Currently, it's up to the Governing Body of each school to decide whether to include sex education on the curriculum and many do (and will probably continue to include it). Parents have the right to withdraw their children from these lessons if they wish to.


I don't think that parental consent [or the lack of] should be allowed. It just creates a pool of ignorance in those kids that don't go to the sex classes. That creates a population of kids that can get STD's and teen pregnancies. A public health issue, and therefore should override religious woo. I am quite a Nazi on public health issues. Democratic sentiments should be restrained on such matters. :) :)
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#24  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Apr 09, 2010 10:23 am

Darwinsbulldog wrote:
Topsy wrote:Sex education has been taught in primary schools for decades. Currently, it's up to the Governing Body of each school to decide whether to include sex education on the curriculum and many do (and will probably continue to include it). Parents have the right to withdraw their children from these lessons if they wish to.


I don't think that parental consent [or the lack of] should be allowed. It just creates a pool of ignorance in those kids that don't go to the sex classes. That creates a population of kids that can get STD's and teen pregnancies. A public health issue, and therefore should override religious woo. I am quite a Nazi on public health issues. Democratic sentiments should be restrained on such matters. :) :)

let the parents who dissent take a sex-ed exam to see if they qualify to make that desision.
just passing the practical test is not enough here :mrgreen:
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#25  Postby Animavore » Apr 09, 2010 10:24 am

I don't see the problem with this. Kids will find out about this kind of stuff I mean lets be realistic. When I was 8 I already knew what sex was as well as most sex acts and condoms due mainly to kids down the back of the bus but also through seeing porno mags and such... it ended up being me having to protect my parents (by keeping "innocent" overtly) than the other way around.
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#26  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 09, 2010 10:25 am

Parents should be tested to see if they are fit to have kids!
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#27  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Apr 09, 2010 10:27 am

Animavore wrote:I don't see the problem with this. Kids will find out about this kind of stuff I mean lets be realistic. When I was 8 I already knew what sex was as well as most sex acts and condoms due mainly to kids down the back of the bus but also through seeing porno mags and such... it ended up being me having to protect my parents (by keeping "innocent" overtly) than the other way around.


The problem with that is that kids might not spread the right information. In my school there were kids who reckoned that the belly-button was where a boy should sheath his dick.
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#28  Postby Spearthrower » Apr 09, 2010 12:52 pm

I grew up in Harrow, London... and sex education classes started in the last year of primary school. While I seem to remember everyone being excited because of the word 'sex', I don't recall there being anything even remotely sexual about the content. It was all line drawings and quotes like "when mummy and daddy love each other very much...." with occasional footage of lions mating.

When these hundreds of heads and church leaders start realising that sex is a basic biological requirement like eating, shitting and sleeping, and not innately moral, then they will be in a position to discuss it. Until them, keep your moralising bullshit out of the classroom and let us try to find ways to better inform kids to not fuck up their lives by getting/getting someone pregnant at 15.
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#29  Postby lordshipmayhem » Apr 09, 2010 2:09 pm

Jain wrote:Interesting yet I think 7 is a bit young, my daughter is 7 and very bright. I think when she is 8 she may be ready for more info on sex ed. Not yet though.

I bet by the time she's 8 she'll have some information you don't, and some misinformation you'll have to correct. Good luck.

I know, it's hard being a parent. Everyone has opinions, the opinions are based on how "their" kids reacted, and nobody giving the advice seems to recognize that every kid is different...
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#30  Postby Animavore » Apr 09, 2010 2:14 pm

Darwinsbulldog wrote:
Animavore wrote:I don't see the problem with this. Kids will find out about this kind of stuff I mean lets be realistic. When I was 8 I already knew what sex was as well as most sex acts and condoms due mainly to kids down the back of the bus but also through seeing porno mags and such... it ended up being me having to protect my parents (by keeping "innocent" overtly) than the other way around.


The problem with that is that kids might not spread the right information. In my school there were kids who reckoned that the belly-button was where a boy should sheath his dick.


Wow. Kids around your way are pretty dumb :lol:


Actually when I moved from the city to the country at the age of 10 I was amazed how innocent the other kids were.
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#31  Postby Darwinsbulldog » Apr 10, 2010 3:35 am

Animavore wrote:
Darwinsbulldog wrote:
Animavore wrote:I don't see the problem with this. Kids will find out about this kind of stuff I mean lets be realistic. When I was 8 I already knew what sex was as well as most sex acts and condoms due mainly to kids down the back of the bus but also through seeing porno mags and such... it ended up being me having to protect my parents (by keeping "innocent" overtly) than the other way around.


The problem with that is that kids might not spread the right information. In my school there were kids who reckoned that the belly-button was where a boy should sheath his dick.


Wow. Kids around your way are pretty dumb :lol:


Actually when I moved from the city to the country at the age of 10 I was amazed how innocent the other kids were.


There was also a case of a sexually naive couple went to the doctor about a perceived fertility problem. It took a while, but the couple happened to mention that entry was difficult-it would be if it turns out that the male was trying to penetrate his wife's belly-button. True case, but I don't have the citation.
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